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Comrade Grumpy

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39. Oh, c'mon. There's a thread with 300+ replies in GD right now...

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:13 PM

Feb 2014

...whose basic premise is that if someone makes an allegation it MUST be true.

A false allegation about doctor in Delaware proves nothing except about that case. It certainly doesn't prove that Woody Allen is innocent of the claims against him.

I don't know who is arguing that because some tiny fraction of such allegations are false, all such must be false.

I do see a big dispute over the veracity of the allegations in the Allen case. That's the way it goes. People are allowed to make allegations; people are allowed to defend themselves against them.

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Girl admits she lied about being molested. [View all] CBGLuthier Feb 2014 OP

... DonViejo Feb 2014 #1

Does the girl own any Woody Allen movies? FSogol Feb 2014 #2

! TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #16

Some people lie about things justiceischeap Feb 2014 #3

So it is normal AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #107

Didn't say that. justiceischeap Feb 2014 #121

The PM's are flying right now! snooper2 Feb 2014 #4

I doubt this makes up for the 93+% of valid accusations LanternWaste Feb 2014 #5

Man still denies he molested and raped children for years: Whisp Feb 2014 #52

+1 Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #55

what's your point? PeaceNikki Feb 2014 #6

What's yours? cleanhippie Feb 2014 #79

What's yours? PeaceNikki Feb 2014 #93

To show that you don't have one. Thanks for helping demonstrate that. cleanhippie Feb 2014 #131

i asked a question to the op about intention. clearly that is is very tough for you to grasp. PeaceNikki Feb 2014 #132

And I asked you a question about your intention. cleanhippie Feb 2014 #133

One girl lied. That means they all lied!!! Even me. Maybe I have ' false memories'!!! bravenak Feb 2014 #7

According to your words, all molesters are men 1000words Feb 2014 #9

Wow. bravenak Feb 2014 #13

Try as you might ... 1000words Feb 2014 #15

But you're doing it right now. bravenak Feb 2014 #17

Ah, I gotta borrow that word BainsBane Feb 2014 #29

I make up shit all day. bravenak Feb 2014 #31

if you don't get noticed it's because of phenomanonymosity. Voice for Peace Feb 2014 #46

I'm awesome at being anonymous? bravenak Feb 2014 #49

only if it's done phenomenonymously. Voice for Peace Feb 2014 #51

Damn your good! JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #101

Do you have statistics to prove that "most" are men? Renew Deal Feb 2014 #80

Yes I do. bravenak Feb 2014 #111

I so want to create a poll and ask how many DU members have been molested by women justiceischeap Feb 2014 #53

Both a man and a woman FrodosPet Feb 2014 #57

I was too. bravenak Feb 2014 #58

....nooooooooo.... that's not the point, is it? sibelian Feb 2014 #73

Pretending is always fun. bravenak Feb 2014 #112

Why do you assume they are all men? Renew Deal Feb 2014 #78

99% of the people convicted of and imprisoned in response to rape accusations were male seabeyond Feb 2014 #86

They stated that "all" "child molesters" are men. Renew Deal Feb 2014 #98

no. they did not. take note of periods, end of sentences. re read. NO.... seabeyond Feb 2014 #99

Her statement isn't clear Renew Deal Feb 2014 #102

you would just rather falsely accuse, and present an incorrect assumption than read the second post? seabeyond Feb 2014 #103

I get what you're saying Renew Deal Feb 2014 #105

you are continuing to purposely misread it. that is your part. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #106

Read further. bravenak Feb 2014 #110

Reading is fundamental. bravenak Feb 2014 #115

Binary thinking rarely survives contact with the real world. n/t Orsino Feb 2014 #92

... 1000words Feb 2014 #8

Maybe you should post another OP about how one woman lied about being raped. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #10

But this is DU, where if less than one percent of people do something wrong The Straight Story Feb 2014 #14

Oh, it's been done BainsBane Feb 2014 #24

Why does this not surprise me? Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #41

pretty certain it's the defense for why subsequent accused rapists are innocent until proven guilty frylock Feb 2014 #56

Interesting how innocent until proven guilty is always raised to defend rapists BainsBane Feb 2014 #65

i guess you missed the video of the cops wailing on the schizophrenic man? frylock Feb 2014 #66

So you agree it is about subject matter BainsBane Feb 2014 #68

no, that's something you decided yourself.. frylock Feb 2014 #69

I'm not talking about you specifically BainsBane Feb 2014 #70

I often see that as a form of attempting to shut down the opponent kcr Feb 2014 #71

Actually, "innocent until proven guilty" should apply to everyone. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #85

Read Once again, this time paying attention BainsBane Feb 2014 #127

I agree. Everyone. But what is this "special status?" Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #130

Well, becuase what they mean is "The powerful are presumed innocent" Scootaloo Feb 2014 #126

Why are you acting so strange? Renew Deal Feb 2014 #81

I'm sure it's just a coincidence this OP was posted. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #94

The story is 18 hours old Renew Deal Feb 2014 #96

Come on. Don't assume people are stupid BainsBane Feb 2014 #128

That can't be ..... oldhippie Feb 2014 #11

Links? BainsBane Feb 2014 #21

You know perfectly well what posts I am talking about ..... oldhippie Feb 2014 #75

I not only don't know pefectly well, I have never seen such a post BainsBane Feb 2014 #104

Me? Pissed off? oldhippie Feb 2014 #120

One person said it? BainsBane Feb 2014 #129

It doesn't say she lied about being molested kcr Feb 2014 #12

Don't let facts get in the way BainsBane Feb 2014 #20

Isn't it funny how some will insist it's all about facts, and some let emotion get in the way kcr Feb 2014 #36

Yes, the facts trope is a Positivist one BainsBane Feb 2014 #47

Here's the quote from the article: okaawhatever Feb 2014 #34

It was the father's defense. kcr Feb 2014 #42

I'm pretty sure this isn't a common thing. HappyMe Feb 2014 #18

I guess that well-known Delaware Doctor is off the hook. el_bryanto Feb 2014 #19

I doubt it. If you actually read the details she doesn't say she wasn't molested. kcr Feb 2014 #22

If a child makes claims of sexual abuse Aerows Feb 2014 #23

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #25

I'm sorry, this can't be right. TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #26

And it isn't right in this case. The headline is wrong n/t kcr Feb 2014 #27

Please provide us links to those DU sources BainsBane Feb 2014 #28

Oh, c'mon. There's a thread with 300+ replies in GD right now... Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #39

And people can and do distort BainsBane Feb 2014 #44

You have never seen anyone say that false accusations are impossible? Democat Feb 2014 #113

That wasn't the point of that thread at all kcr Feb 2014 #45

I actually haven't posted directly on the issue TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #60

I'm not going to tell you you're an awful person kcr Feb 2014 #64

You just call people idiots and "assholery army" BainsBane Feb 2014 #67

The headline was WRONG...she didn't say NO abuse happened. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #61

Yea, that's me precisely TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #72

"Researchers Say That as Few As 1 in 10 Instances of Child Abuse Are Reported." Squinch Feb 2014 #30

I guess that bottom of the barrel you lot are scraping *does* go lower. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #32

"My home life is far too stable." Aerows Feb 2014 #35

Father of the year here: Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #38

Oh, well that settles it Aerows Feb 2014 #40

I feel there's an Ignore in your future...nt SidDithers Feb 2014 #33

That's a really bad choice of story for the point you are trying to make. Read the rest of it: Squinch Feb 2014 #37

Do you really want counter-point "Man admits he lied about molesting" links? WinkyDink Feb 2014 #43

I am so fucking sick of the wrongs of one person being used to paint all victims as the same... cynatnite Feb 2014 #48

The girl's father is being tried for torturing her Kelvin Mace Feb 2014 #50

Wow, is Woody Allen Tien1985 Feb 2014 #54

Is this what DU is now? gollygee Feb 2014 #59

It's pretty much what has been alluded to by many. She lied, her mother planted false memories.... boston bean Feb 2014 #83

This thread is hilarious pintobean Feb 2014 #62

I think DU is done. sibelian Feb 2014 #76

I agree Renew Deal Feb 2014 #82

there will always be those that prefer a chuckle and bag of popcorn seabeyond Feb 2014 #88

And, there are those that read pintobean Feb 2014 #95

and, there are those that know the reality and STILL actively promote the worst seabeyond Feb 2014 #97

Even if the girl said there was more abuse than actually happened Ken Burch Feb 2014 #63

"nobody ever tries to collectively discredit any OTHER category of crime victims" bettyellen Feb 2014 #74

quit trying to rationalize allens pervertities. they are what they are. be offended. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #77

Your back! snooper2 Feb 2014 #84

hey.... i have been reading you. seabeyond Feb 2014 #87

best thread so far snooper2 Feb 2014 #89

omg.... lol, thanks for the link. seabeyond Feb 2014 #90

You really don't get the whole "presumption of innocence" thing, do you? TheSarcastinator Feb 2014 #108

you ignore the tells of rape and molestation of our chilldren, you are part of the problem. seabeyond Feb 2014 #109

Yes, insisting on presumption of innocence is obviously a problem for you. TheSarcastinator Feb 2014 #116

Projection? You do not even need me in this conversation since you feel capable seabeyond Feb 2014 #118

"Pervertities"??? opiate69 Feb 2014 #114

You laugh at molestation of children? I understand you and yours seabeyond Feb 2014 #117

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #119

wow... a whole post of insults. just blatant. no if and or buts. just throw out insults..... seabeyond Feb 2014 #122

I don't think you'll find ONE single person here who doesn't take molesting polly7 Feb 2014 #123

Nope. RiffRandell Feb 2014 #124

Ya got dat right pintobean Feb 2014 #125

Bullshit. JTFrog Feb 2014 #134

Not one person read the article. (edited) I found one who did. Cerridwen Feb 2014 #91

I had several of his books riverwalker Feb 2014 #100