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AtheistCrusader

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48. Personally, I'd like to see all the facts before judging anyone

Tue Mar 20, 2012, 02:27 AM

Mar 2012

as I happen to believe in innocent until proven guilty.

As a 'back of the envelope estimate' I'd say things look pretty grim for Mr. Zimmerman. Even if the shooting is ruled justified, he made a number of stupid-assed mistakes, starting with getting out of his car, like he had any right to accost this kid at all.

But we'll see. DOJ and FBI are involved now. If he did something wrong, Zimmerman is toast, and likely, some members of the local PD as well.

Justice will not be denied, even if it's gears turn slow.

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"We need to wait until all the facts about Trevyon Martin's death come out." [View all] Bicoastal Mar 2012 OP

A cop wannabe stalked and shot an unarmed black kid tularetom Mar 2012 #1

and he was recorded every step of the way because the 911 calls were recorded grantcart Mar 2012 #43

for those who keep saying that, what i want to know JI7 Mar 2012 #2

yes, the facts normally come out in a trial Enrique Mar 2012 #3

Indeed Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #6

EXACTLY. A rush to judgment in a legal situation is one thing... Bicoastal Mar 2012 #7

Absolutely ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #13

Regarding your last two questions, the answer is generally 'no'. X_Digger Mar 2012 #18

How does that work with the "Stand Your Ground" Law currently on the books in FL? TalkingDog Mar 2012 #23

About the same.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #24

By my reading ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #28

Agreed. X_Digger Mar 2012 #30

Agreed. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #38

A non-silly problem with the Stand Your Ground law is that it provides an excuse pnwmom Mar 2012 #58

Why would he testify? FreeBC Mar 2012 #36

An innocent, unarmed child was gunned down on the street by a wannabe vigilante. MoonRiver Mar 2012 #4

+ 1. n/t truedelphi Mar 2012 #15

That is exactly what it is! etherealtruth Mar 2012 #33

You can find that line right here on DU - almost verbatim Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #5

over and over. barbtries Mar 2012 #11

You got that right Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #12

see below barbtries Mar 2012 #37

Uh, really? The Doctor. Mar 2012 #21

Did I say that some think the shooting was justified? Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #41

Personally, I'd like to see all the facts before judging anyone AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #48

"Innocent until proven guilty" qanda Mar 2012 #51

Justice does not equal survival. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #55

Yep. But it's spread to GD too. Number23 Mar 2012 #45

We are NOT going to "get all the facts" unless we raise a very large stink, tblue37 Mar 2012 #8

You left out the part where local LE declared "no crime" with NO INVESTIGATION... hlthe2b Mar 2012 #9

There WAS an investigation ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #14

That is ludicrous... hlthe2b Mar 2012 #20

Maybe you missed the ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #29

i SO agree. barbtries Mar 2012 #10

For what? quakerboy Mar 2012 #34

for murder. barbtries Mar 2012 #35

That does not seem to be illegal in Florida quakerboy Mar 2012 #39

x digger's post from above: SemperEadem Mar 2012 #52

I agree with you. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #59

Well, lets see quakerboy Mar 2012 #62

You should really try to inform yourself better before spouting off such ignorance. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #56

Halfway in between quakerboy Mar 2012 #61

Sounds to me like people of color and gopiscrap Mar 2012 #16

You forgot to add he was EXPLICITLY told by 911 not approach the individual, to leave it to police DRoseDARs Mar 2012 #17

+1 ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #54

That's all well and good, but... KansDem Mar 2012 #19

This guy Zimmerman must be a really valuable snitch to the local cops. mbperrin Mar 2012 #22

Or he may have something on them. nt greyl Mar 2012 #31

Hard to think a doofus like this couldn't be gotten rid of for blackmail. mbperrin Mar 2012 #44

The facts have had plenty of time to come out.. sendero Mar 2012 #25

Translation"We need to wait until we can find some way to blame the little n____r". Ken Burch Mar 2012 #26

How the F did I miss that?! Bicoastal Mar 2012 #27

No problem. I just thought you were directly quoting some teabagger type. Ken Burch Mar 2012 #32

We need to wait? for WHAT???? DFW Mar 2012 #40

The FBI and the DOJ AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #49

They gain nothing by dragging this out DFW Mar 2012 #50

Give it time. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #53

A trial now, will not go well ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2012 #42

I agree with the OP. nt Lucky Luciano Mar 2012 #46

Why are the cops trying to protect this asshole? Does he have something on them? 1620rock Mar 2012 #47

a post in the comments on CNN.com SCantiGOP Mar 2012 #57

The shooter needs to be arrested immediately. obxhead Mar 2012 #60