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52. President Grover Cleveland married a woman 27 years his junior in the White House

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 07:19 PM

Feb 2014

He had been her legal guardian since age 11 after her father died.

"Cleveland entered the White House as a bachelor and left a married man and father of two. His new wife was a beautiful young woman 27 years his junior named Frances Folsom. Frances was the daughter of a former law partner and Cleveland's legal ward; Cleveland had literally known her since she was born. When she was 11, Frances' father died and Cleveland became her legal guardian, remaining close friends with her mother. His pet name for Frances was Frank. Observers thought Cleveland would marry his friend's widow and were completely surprised when, instead, he married Frances as soon as she turned 21."

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/grover-cleveland-gets-married-in-the-white-house

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Former girlfriend of Woody Allen, who was a teen when dating Allen, defends him re: allegations [View all] quinnox Feb 2014 OP

So she was 17 and he was 35 years older? dilby Feb 2014 #1

I think one of the main points is she was there at the time quinnox Feb 2014 #2

Face it, people here have made up their minds... joeybee12 Feb 2014 #4

She said this under oath, then? Why is THIS woman so credible while the adult Dylan is not, HMMMMM? WinkyDink Feb 2014 #69

yes, and she's not looking supernova Feb 2014 #3

I had college classmates who were dating profs (similar age differences.) Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #55

Yep. Exactly. Arugula Latte Feb 2014 #8

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #16

Bacall was 19 and Bogart was 44 progressoid Feb 2014 #22

all this stupid shit and no one says anything about the old men Mia Farrow kept marrying. CBGLuthier Feb 2014 #23

This is about Dylan Farrow and what she says happened to her, not about who Farrow pnwmom Feb 2014 #24

It's about two people who ended up in a nasty custody battle sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #61

The courts did NOT decide there was no abuse. pnwmom Feb 2014 #63

Because it didn't even get that far. Look, I'm really not interested in this anymore. sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #64

Nope, still gross. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #5

Does Nelkin have a daughter? Xyzse Feb 2014 #6

dunno, but she is in her 50s now, and she seems fine with what she did, dating Allen, a much older quinnox Feb 2014 #7

There is something called Stockholm syndrome as well. Xyzse Feb 2014 #9

Oh, good Lord! n/t Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #10

It was a 24 age gap, less than the 30 year age gap between Farrow & Sinatra -- whom she El_Johns Feb 2014 #42

She isn't in her 50s gollygee Feb 2014 #31

She's 55. Woody Allen is 79. 24-year difference. El_Johns Feb 2014 #36

Oh ok well that's different than what's in the OP gollygee Feb 2014 #37

say what? no, under 18 is not necessarily considered "another type of rape" cali Feb 2014 #12

It is called statutory rape. Xyzse Feb 2014 #15

Which state? JJChambers Feb 2014 #29

These ones. Xyzse Feb 2014 #30

California Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #32

the problem with hunt was the disgusting web of lies she and her parents pushed. cali Feb 2014 #70

wow, well, if under 18 is rape, then a lot of teenage boys are guilty quinnox Feb 2014 #13

That isn't the point. Xyzse Feb 2014 #17

Oh. Well. That makes it okay then. blue neen Feb 2014 #33

No, actually I think the issue in this case is a whole bunch of bored screechy people looking for sibelian Feb 2014 #66

You would do well to look at some statutory rape statues BainsBane Feb 2014 #72

Age of consent in NY is currently 17 mathematic Feb 2014 #14

Thanks for the correction. Xyzse Feb 2014 #19

it used to be 18 in NY, not sure when it got lowered. I think in the 70's . bettyellen Feb 2014 #48

Not in New York. former9thward Feb 2014 #28

so anyone who is dating anyone knows Whisp Feb 2014 #11

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #18

Mia Farrow is also a close friend of Roman Polanski, she has defended him in court sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #20

She's upset about child abuse of HER OWN CHILD gollygee Feb 2014 #43

I'm upset about all child abuse. And would not be going to court to defend someone sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #60

That all has nothing to do with whether gollygee Feb 2014 #71

Or the 71-year-old Sinatra with 41-year-old Farrow -- since Farrow has already admitted she El_Johns Feb 2014 #38

Frank Sinatra was an adult. Mia Farrow was an adult. blue neen Feb 2014 #53

So was Nelkin, 17 being the age of consent in NY. Doesn't stop numerous posters from commenting El_Johns Feb 2014 #59

"said Nelkin, who first met Allen on the set of the film �Manhattan."" redqueen Feb 2014 #21

Sounds like a man afraid of being challenged justiceischeap Feb 2014 #26

Whoever wrote that is mistaken. Their relationship began in 1976, when she was 17. At 18, El_Johns Feb 2014 #39

Who wants to think they might have dated a pervert? n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #25

The accusations did NOT come on the "heels of a custody battle." BainsBane Feb 2014 #27

Well, she was there at the time, and in contact with Allen quinnox Feb 2014 #35

This woman just changed her story live on camera, but you're taking her word as credible redqueen Feb 2014 #41

Maybe she had a false memory gollygee Feb 2014 #44

The amount of mental gymnastics people are engaging in in order to defend Allen is fucking sickening redqueen Feb 2014 #46

I just watched the CNN interview, she seems credible to me quinnox Feb 2014 #47

... redqueen Feb 2014 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author quinnox Feb 2014 #50

I just read the transcript, and I wouldn't say she "changed her story" because of that quinnox Feb 2014 #54

It's a detail that makes a difference between a relationship and a felony by Woody Allen BainsBane Feb 2014 #62

Transcript is here: edbermac Feb 2014 #57

I don't believe that. BainsBane Feb 2014 #51

Do your exes know about your life now to that degree? Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #58

Jerry Seinfeld 1000words Feb 2014 #34

Why don't you just come over here and shoot me dead. rgbecker Feb 2014 #40

I doubt she'll be accused of harboring false memories of her youth... LanternWaste Feb 2014 #45

President Grover Cleveland married a woman 27 years his junior in the White House kskiska Feb 2014 #52

Just a short 23 years after the Emancipation Proclamation was signed. redqueen Feb 2014 #56

Why would anyone date him, especially teens? treestar Feb 2014 #65

Because he's a sex god. Frank Cannon Feb 2014 #67

Who cares who "vouches" for WA? Do people expect pedophiles to be so in public? WinkyDink Feb 2014 #68