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longship

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27. I just know that these things often don't pan out.

Reply to Shoulders of Giants (Reply #26)

Tue Feb 4, 2014, 07:34 PM

Feb 2014

Ham will bus in hundreds of true believers. Nye will be speaking to a crowd, none of whom will change their mind. But Ham will obtain legitimacy from the very fact that the debate happens.

Scientists don't debate the heliocentric solar system. They should not debate biology either.

If I were Nye I would have told Ham to shove it up his creationist ass.

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The Bill Nye/ Ken Ham debate will be live on [View all] Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 OP

I don't hold out much hope for intelligent debate. Warpy Feb 2014 #1

As I will Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #2

As an added note Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #3

I can predict exactly how it'll go. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #4

That's not how they operate. In fact they depend on that preconception JHB Feb 2014 #6

^^That. Orrex Feb 2014 #8

yup. magical thyme Feb 2014 #12

Not much to see here. CFLDem Feb 2014 #5

It goes more like this: JHB Feb 2014 #16

BIG, huge mistake for Nye to accept this. longship Feb 2014 #7

Yes. Everyone of these sorts of debates I've witnessed since the 70's is a circus HereSince1628 Feb 2014 #11

I don't know much about Ken Ham, but I would guess he must be a great manipulator. Shoulders of Giants Feb 2014 #26

I just know that these things often don't pan out. longship Feb 2014 #27

What is the difference between Creationism and saying God used scientific methods, el_bryanto Feb 2014 #9

because evolution says we were apes before human. can't have that. magical thyme Feb 2014 #14

Nods- i understand that's the creationists point of view el_bryanto Feb 2014 #15

I misread/misinterpreted the question, so thought you were asking if Creationists magical thyme Feb 2014 #18

Well there are multiple meanings of the word creationist el_bryanto Feb 2014 #19

for the purposes of this thread, there are 2 meanings that matter magical thyme Feb 2014 #21

The relevant difference is that creationism is a philosophy, whilst evolution/astronomy is a science LanternWaste Feb 2014 #25

science debates science fiction....waste of time spanone Feb 2014 #10

Creationism is not science fiction Blue_Adept Feb 2014 #32

A good quote.. X_Digger Feb 2014 #13

What a pointless debate. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #17

I agree n/t PasadenaTrudy Feb 2014 #20

I agree, Ham is a huckster selling snake oil to those that need their snake oil Johonny Feb 2014 #22

Agreed. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #23

Juanita Jean is urging people to watch this debate Gothmog Feb 2014 #24

This "debate" is a joke... Ka hrnt Feb 2014 #28

Sheesh, is that audience stacked against Nye or what? n/t A HERETIC I AM Feb 2014 #29

you can't argue against religion. it's fantasy. you can't beat fantasy. spanone Feb 2014 #30

Creationism has little to do with religion. DemocraticWing Feb 2014 #31