The notion that "morality is relative" seems to have died a quiet philosophical death.

[jollyreaper2112]

2. Eh. I'm on both sides

Religion usually claims an absolute morality given by god but made up by humans. Sam Harris argues that we can achieve an absolute morality with science and ethics. I'm simplifying his position but I tend to agree with it. We have a social contract just as we have a constructed morality. I give up my right to bash you over the head and take your shit same as you do, thus Civilization. Violence is bad, murder is bad, rape is bad, slavery is bad, etc. And it harm none, do what thou wilt. You harm others or yourself, that's bad, mkay?

As for relative, if different societies made different calls on what is civilized, we will find wildly different norms. I would go as far as to say they may be wrong but they are buying into it. Funereal cannibalism, human sacrifice, royal incest, etc. You will have a hard fight changing their minds. What if they truly believe hearts must be offered to the gods to keep the sun alight? Old people killing themselves to not be a burden is noble and celebrated. Marrying for love in spite of parental wishes is selfish and willful. And our western ways are seen as perverse.

Usually the lunkheads arguing that there is no right and wrong are trying to make excuses for doing things they know are wrong.