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168. I don't dislike Elizabeth Warren, but I can make more arguments as to why she won't win

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 11:37 AM

Feb 2014

First and foremost, the banking/finance sector will offer record financing to oppose her. The "Indian Princess" thing will get brought up again, and she'll simply be painted as inexperienced (although she'll have the same experience Obama had) and lacking in foreign policy credibility.

Hillary: yes, Benghazi will be brought up, as well as the Rose Law Firm documents and perhaps Vince Foster. But Hillary has been first lady, Senator from one of America's largest states, and Sec State. She has unparalleled credentials. And Bill will campaign for her, and 70% of the public thinks highly of Bill, and he'll likely become Sec State or UN Ambassador (Chelsea will be hostess in chief).

Christie was the GOPs best hope. Unless they can convince Condi Rice to run (and she has her own baggage), I think the GOP is stuck for a viable candidate this time out.

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How about this??? Scuba Feb 2014 #164

Hmmm...closer, but OmahaBlueDog Feb 2014 #166

I disagree that Hillary is more effective than Elizabeth in doing good things for our citizens. Scuba Feb 2014 #167

I don't dislike Elizabeth Warren, but I can make more arguments as to why she won't win OmahaBlueDog Feb 2014 #168

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The OP didn't vote in the poll. joshcryer Feb 2014 #141

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"Substantial support" when it's nearly a tie? joshcryer Feb 2014 #143

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After due consideration, I vote "Yes" OmahaBlueDog Feb 2014 #169