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In reply to the discussion: "We need to wait until all the facts about Trevyon Martin's death come out." [View all]SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)52. x digger's post from above:
http://law.onecle.com/florida/crimes/776.041.html
it would appear that by zimmerman's own account and the 911 tapes which recorded his comments to police dispatchers, he didn't meet these parameters. As far as I'm concerned, that puts him in the murderer category.
The minor was not attempting to commit, was not commiting nor was he escaping after the commision of a felony. He was walking home from the convenience store. No where in the Union is walking home from a convenience store a felony. It doesn't even rise to misdemeanor.
zimmerman was in a car out of which HE CHOSE to exit in order to confront this minor in order to provoke the use of force.
He had not exhausted every reasonable means to escape "such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant..."
I think the minor having been recorded on the 911 tapes begging for his life before a gunshot rang out and he was silenced constitutes him withdrawing from physical contact, but the assailant (zimmerman) decided to not only continue/resume the use of force, he escalated it til the minor was sufficiently dead.
Now, you may not like those inconvenient details of what is now not in dispute about how the assailant behaved in the moments before a 17 yr old minor lie dead face down in the dirt, but sometimes, the truth is inconvenient and uncomfortable for some to wrap their heads around. It does not diminish the truth nor will it keep it from surfacing. The truth always surfaces when it's most inconvenient to the liar, which zimmerman has proven to be.
On the subject of truth, I refer you to my quote below:
776.041 Use of force by aggressor.
The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.
it would appear that by zimmerman's own account and the 911 tapes which recorded his comments to police dispatchers, he didn't meet these parameters. As far as I'm concerned, that puts him in the murderer category.
The minor was not attempting to commit, was not commiting nor was he escaping after the commision of a felony. He was walking home from the convenience store. No where in the Union is walking home from a convenience store a felony. It doesn't even rise to misdemeanor.
zimmerman was in a car out of which HE CHOSE to exit in order to confront this minor in order to provoke the use of force.
He had not exhausted every reasonable means to escape "such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant..."
I think the minor having been recorded on the 911 tapes begging for his life before a gunshot rang out and he was silenced constitutes him withdrawing from physical contact, but the assailant (zimmerman) decided to not only continue/resume the use of force, he escalated it til the minor was sufficiently dead.
Now, you may not like those inconvenient details of what is now not in dispute about how the assailant behaved in the moments before a 17 yr old minor lie dead face down in the dirt, but sometimes, the truth is inconvenient and uncomfortable for some to wrap their heads around. It does not diminish the truth nor will it keep it from surfacing. The truth always surfaces when it's most inconvenient to the liar, which zimmerman has proven to be.
On the subject of truth, I refer you to my quote below:
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"We need to wait until all the facts about Trevyon Martin's death come out." [View all]
Bicoastal
Mar 2012
OP
and he was recorded every step of the way because the 911 calls were recorded
grantcart
Mar 2012
#43
How does that work with the "Stand Your Ground" Law currently on the books in FL?
TalkingDog
Mar 2012
#23
A non-silly problem with the Stand Your Ground law is that it provides an excuse
pnwmom
Mar 2012
#58
An innocent, unarmed child was gunned down on the street by a wannabe vigilante.
MoonRiver
Mar 2012
#4
You left out the part where local LE declared "no crime" with NO INVESTIGATION...
hlthe2b
Mar 2012
#9
You should really try to inform yourself better before spouting off such ignorance.
cleanhippie
Mar 2012
#56
You forgot to add he was EXPLICITLY told by 911 not approach the individual, to leave it to police
DRoseDARs
Mar 2012
#17
Translation"We need to wait until we can find some way to blame the little n____r".
Ken Burch
Mar 2012
#26
Why are the cops trying to protect this asshole? Does he have something on them?
1620rock
Mar 2012
#47