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21. I am a Bleeding-heart, Left Liberal. I oppose the Two Party System. I think the Electoral College

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 06:17 PM

Feb 2014

stinks to high heaven. But there are 300 million, give or take, people in this country. The fact is that there is only one person at the top of the heap. How we get there is certainly circuitous and often shameful, but it's the best we have. And, frankly, there aren't very many, if any, better places to live, work, raise children, etc.

Always, always, always ... a non-vote is a vote. The failure to make a decision (vote) actually counts as a decision ... for the opponent. Always, always, always. Even worse, it convinces other weaklings just to stay home and not wrestle with their feelings and judgments and make a choice. It allows scoundrels to gerrymander, rig elections (New "voter" laws), steamroll the people (Citizen's United), write laws (ALEC). Just great.

Vote, please.

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I'm a populist; I'm no longer a Democrat. [View all] Supposn Feb 2014 OP

You should post more often 1000words Feb 2014 #1

In before the cloudbase Feb 2014 #2

He's been here 5 years. Iggo Feb 2014 #51

Here, but not here. Hekate Feb 2014 #59

I know, right? Iggo Feb 2014 #66

He registered five years ago, but that doesn't mean he's been here for five years. merrily Feb 2014 #74

I'm an Anarchist and a Democrat. I understand that there are Catholic, Vegetarian, Liberal, Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #3

I would rather the party became liberal LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #4

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #119

Not necessarily Tanuki Feb 2014 #127

You are correct, but LostOne4Ever implied the two concepts are mutually exclusive. They are not. Lasher Feb 2014 #128

No, I just said I rather the party be liberal LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #150

You said you'd rather the party became liberal rather than populist. Lasher Feb 2014 #159

A false dilemma LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #163

If you are not a D and don't vote for D's... Why are you here? Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #5

Awaiting the start of Non-Democratic Populist Underground? (nt) JaneQPublic Feb 2014 #10

This isn't it. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2014 #11

It might be. Watch the Recs go into the hundreds... n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #15

Wrong turn at Albuquerque Bugs Bunny? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #27

Or just the Populist Underground Mnpaul Feb 2014 #180

Maybe s/he's a Liberal? According to polls, this OP is by no means alone in their opinion of sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #22

Well... If one wants to vote for another party... That is up to them... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #24

I always vote for the most progressive candidate on the ballot 1000words Feb 2014 #25

Have you read the Terms of Service? Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #30

Yes 1000words Feb 2014 #34

From the TOS: Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #89

'One' does not want to vote for another party. But more than one want to vote for sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #40

You do not seem to be reading what either I or the OP wrote Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #42

You forgot Republican who re-registered Indie, but could not bring himself to register Dem. merrily Feb 2014 #77

Thanks, there are so many Republicans still in this Administration. Then there are sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #116

Well, if you bear in mind that some people post because merrily Feb 2014 #125

Why bother being here? Read your own post, maybe they want to change it. A Simple Game Feb 2014 #70

It was easy to appear liberal when Bush was President, which is when you registered. merrily Feb 2014 #81

I don't appear liberal, I am liberal, always have been and always will be. I am now too old A Simple Game Feb 2014 #122

I meant that it was easy for the posters and the board to appear liberal back then. merrily Feb 2014 #124

You're right nothing in your post suggests you saw the word liberal or that you A Simple Game Feb 2014 #132

You have a reading comprehension problem and a rudeness problem. merrily Feb 2014 #136

So... You think a method to change the democratic party is... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #88

How do you suggest we change it? Here's an example of what is going on in the Dem Party. sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #97

Do you actually read posts? Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #99

I don't see any suggestions from you as to what we can do change the party, as you sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #102

Again... You are not reading what I'm writing... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #114

61 Elected Denocrats 'gave up,endorsed and voted for Republican Chris Christie sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #115

Yeah... You don't seem to be able to comprehend what I'm writing... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #142

When their membership gets low enough, they may get the idea that they are A Simple Game Feb 2014 #120

How does any party get changed? Do you really not know how to get involved? Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #144

I don't just go out and vote for someone, I vote for the most liberal candidate possible. A Simple Game Feb 2014 #152

Perhaps you should not have spent your time waitng and instead acted... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #154

So you didn't sit around? Then I can blame you for the problems with the party? A Simple Game Feb 2014 #178

"This is a site for people who vote D." Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #131

If you do not have a local D to vote for, that is different... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #148

+1 Scuba Feb 2014 #26

Liberals have NEVER been told that.....but those who say others ARE! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #28

There are a whole lot of 3rd WAY, DINO's & other Right of Center people here, hiding behind the (D) RC Feb 2014 #107

Funny....I have never heard anyone call themself that except for Manny (of course). VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #110

I can see where the 3rd Way, DINO's and other Right of Center 'Democrats' (Republican Lite) would RC Feb 2014 #129

Who are you directing that at? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #167

Liberal Left President? RC Feb 2014 #169

Go read it for yourself....or are you just going to stay myopic? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #170

I prefer to think for myself. RC Feb 2014 #174

So you don't read EVERY Single statement and vote ever made to VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #175

Projecting much? RC Feb 2014 #176

No projection about it... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #177

This message was self-deleted by its author VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #170

This message was self-deleted by its author VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #172

Self-identified as a populist, not as a liberal, though. merrily Feb 2014 #75

Thank you. A voice of reason. But hey, let's support the very thing truth2power Feb 2014 #126

I'm wondering that too BainsBane Feb 2014 #29

I thought it was enough to be a 'dyed in the wool' democrat. Blanks Feb 2014 #67

These terms are all so subjective BainsBane Feb 2014 #69

subjective is a good word SwampG8r Feb 2014 #143

My version of left BainsBane Feb 2014 #145

i think SwampG8r Feb 2014 #146

specific to a subset BainsBane Feb 2014 #147

ok i am going to choose SwampG8r Feb 2014 #149

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #113

"community for politically liberal people..." that gets rid of the right wing/centrtist dems lol nt msongs Feb 2014 #16

Here is my proof! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #32

I should have read further first BainsBane Feb 2014 #31

I still have the archaic notion that my vote is owned by me. Not the party or a politician. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #95

Your vote is indeed owned by you. This is about what Skinner et al created for guidelines NRaleighLiberal Feb 2014 #96

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #121

A lot of folks here are populists but I suspect many of them don't know it. Lasher Feb 2014 #130

Me - not lonely at all - and not as confused as you are. Yes, it is a requirement - NRaleighLiberal Feb 2014 #140

"Vote for Democrats" Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #138

So, if he refused to sign the bill and cutt off all foodstamps, that would be a moral stand? Agnosticsherbet Feb 2014 #7

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #118

Seems I missed another rant. Look, governing is messy. It is easy out here to Agnosticsherbet Feb 2014 #166

So....were you ever a Democrat? Avalux Feb 2014 #8

particularly here.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #33

Fine, most people don't bother to vote upaloopa Feb 2014 #9

Why disappointed in a Liberal Left President? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #35

Are you asking why I am disappointed in Obama? upaloopa Feb 2014 #38

You just always leave out the opposition....JEEBUS....Chomsky himself couldn't have done any better VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #39

Yes I am upaloopa Feb 2014 #46

You expected Sparkle ponies and Unicorns and Flying cars then VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #49

You don't have to sell me on that. I had hoped enough upaloopa Feb 2014 #54

Sell you...that's easy.. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #55

You don't like Chomsky either? sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #50

Not what I said Sabrina.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #52

You know who else is a "Liberal Voice" you would deny....Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #53

Boy are you wrong. RC Feb 2014 #181

I didn't make that....OnTheIssues did....gripe to them... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #184

Hillary more Liberal and Obama? RC Feb 2014 #185

Yes and I have ALWAYS said so...its why I was for Hillary before Obama won the primary... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #186

Thanks for the fact checking. Will read this one carefully. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #71

Because the Democratic Party is populist leaning liberal. Lasher Feb 2014 #155

Uh so is the President...I don't know WHAT you are talking about...I suggest some research... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #168

The 112th Congress swept in with a Tea Party majority in 2010 is still happily destroying America. freshwest Feb 2014 #12

So then you do support having 16 states take advantage of a loophole at the expense of everyone okaawhatever Feb 2014 #13

Golly. OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #14

OMG! Inforwars hasn't changed one word from this guy! n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #17

To this day... OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #19

... or, if you prefer a living, actual Presidential contender: OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #18

Yes... And counting on the populists inhabiting Broken Clocks... freshwest Feb 2014 #23

Lurker since Oct 2009? PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #20

I am a Bleeding-heart, Left Liberal. I oppose the Two Party System. I think the Electoral College libdem4life Feb 2014 #21

Well said! Phentex Feb 2014 #43

+1 Hekate Feb 2014 #62

Good post. Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #91

Yes, well said. RC Feb 2014 #182

I'm a socialist and I will vote for them Warpy Feb 2014 #36

Blah...Blah...Blah. Say hi to this guy, he's irrelevant too. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #37

FUCK RALPH! great white snark Feb 2014 #45

You'll note that he didn't mention the actual "Socialist" in the Senate who voted for this bill. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #64

That last sentence says it all, no fooling around. This is an election year and it effects turnout. freshwest Feb 2014 #76

You're exactly right. And I love the kitty pic & the message is on point! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #158

So when does PopulistUnderground launch??? JoePhilly Feb 2014 #41

PU???? Phentex Feb 2014 #44

Smell the Freedom!!! JoePhilly Feb 2014 #48

PU!!!! greatauntoftriplets Feb 2014 #56

their entire activism would consist of "PUing" Democrats on the internet JI7 Feb 2014 #58

"PU"! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #65

hahah JI7 Feb 2014 #104

PU meet TP. So many times I've wanted to write that with the alternate meaning. At least this is libdem4life Feb 2014 #68

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #73

What did he gain? jeff47 Feb 2014 #47

Yet he kept his Homeland Security Chair. merrily Feb 2014 #83

So you want to blame Obama for Reid's decision? jeff47 Feb 2014 #84

Can you quote the part of my post where I blamed Obama? merrily Feb 2014 #87

what populist roots ? should the Dems go back to before they supported civil rights also ? JI7 Feb 2014 #57

Disagree. FDR was like an earthquake, even his first 100 days. merrily Feb 2014 #85

perhaps you have unrealistic expectations about the political process Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #60

What the does "ultra liberal" mean? Sounds like things Republicans say. merrily Feb 2014 #86

+1 Rex Feb 2014 #133

Thanks. I just finished responding to a post merrily Feb 2014 #139

I'll only vote for Gemini Democrats--Gemocrats. nt valerief Feb 2014 #61

I am not really sure where you stand sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #63

Your Concern is Noted krawhitham Feb 2014 #72

" I greatly discount what candidates say within 3 months prior to Election Day." G_j Feb 2014 #78

It took ProSense Feb 2014 #79

The proof is in the pudding! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #90

Yup, ProSense Feb 2014 #93

Yup, Crickets! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #94

Good doesn't sell at DU. Only bad. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #100

More unimportant ProSense Feb 2014 #141

Why do you keep posting policy instead of propaganda? LOL! Thanks. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #162

A Hit & Run Populist, en plus... chollybocker Feb 2014 #80

what does that say about conviction? lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #111

The Republican party thanks you for enabling them. JaneyVee Feb 2014 #82

+1 freshwest Feb 2014 #101

Apparently you didn't notice this isn't the populist underground.. Historic NY Feb 2014 #92

I support what you're saying. Ron Green Feb 2014 #98

Simple question: if you don't want to change the Democratic Party, why should we care? brooklynite Feb 2014 #103

So what you are saying if Hillary is the Democratic nominee, you will not vote for her, correct? lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #105

yawn. *plonk* ecstatic Feb 2014 #106

education is what did it for me. There was a thread earlier today about a parent of a dying liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #108

This is pure flame bait. The OP posts to cause controversy, and then he doesn't post one response lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #109

Well you gave the ones that needed a snark fest their feast for the day Rex Feb 2014 #112

Populism is an attempt to graft a veneer of class-consciousness on white supremacist politics Recursion Feb 2014 #117

LOL. And your brand of "progressive corporatism" is an attempt to do what, exactly? nt Romulox Feb 2014 #134

welcome to DU B Calm Feb 2014 #123

You'll find you have no place here. This is a "centrist" website, through and through. nt Romulox Feb 2014 #135

No. It's a website for Democrats. MineralMan Feb 2014 #157

"I'm a populist; I no longer vote for Democrats." NCTraveler Feb 2014 #137

EarlG took care of that. pintobean Feb 2014 #153

Thanks for pointing that out. Republican enablers should have no place here. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #156

Maybe he went too far but I hate to see him banned. Lasher Feb 2014 #160

Very glad to see them banned. I respect your opinion on it. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #161

Then why are you here? BklnDem75 Feb 2014 #151

You're also no longer a DUer. MineralMan Feb 2014 #164

Kick for exposure... SidDithers Feb 2014 #165

Supposn that EarlG banned you? SunsetDreams Feb 2014 #173

. ProSense Feb 2014 #179

I am sorry I didn't get a chance to meet you. While, I vote for Democrats because we have ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #183