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In reply to the discussion: How you know America is not a center-right country, far to the left of Hillary: [View all]grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)136. Is that little graph from 'on the issues'? I believe it was developed by the Libertarians as a
way to eliminate discourse concerning other political parties and philosophies. Note the the only actual political party listed on the chart is Libertarian.
Here's a list from Wiki of the systems that the Nolan chart fails to encompass:
Anarchy
Anarchy is lack of government, as there is no governing authority; in anarchy there is no government and each individual has absolute liberty. It is important to note, however, that the lack of a government to enforce laws does not automatically imply that there are no laws; anarcho-capitalism in particular posits a form of anarchy with a body of explicit laws.
Aristocracy
A form of government in which a select few rule based on inherited hereditary right.
Autocracy
A form of government in which the political power is held by a single, self-appointed ruler.
Communist state
a hypothetical entity to which communists can refer when approached with the inconvenient realities of the socialist "republics" run by communist parties. It is notable however that even under Marxist theory communism is supposed to be stateless.
Corporatocracy
a form of government where a corporation, a group of corporations, or government entities with private components, control the direction and governance of a country.
Demarchy
a hypothetical political system run by randomly selected decision makers who have been selected by sortition. Think selecting a legislature or executive in the same manner that a jury is presently selected.
Democracy
Refers to a broad range of types of government based upon the "consent of the governed." In its purest form it is the same thing as mobocracy, but it is usually practiced in the form of a republic, which provides checks and balances and an establishment that is able to tap an unruly mob on its collective head.
Epistemocracy
a utopian type of society and government in which people of rank, including those holding political office, are those who possess epistemic humility.
Ethnocracy
a form of government where representatives of a particular ethnic group hold a number of government posts disproportionately large to the percentage of the total population that the particular ethnic group(s) represents and use them to advance the position of their particular ethnic group(s) to the detriment of others. In Nazi Germany ethnic groups Hitler supported held all the power. Neo-Nazis often accuse Jews of possessing an ethnocracy in the person of the U.S. government, which they call the Zionist Occupation Government.
Exilarchy
a form of government, usually theocratic or monarchic, that is established and constituted for rule over an ethnic or religious diaspora rather than over the place of origin whence the diaspora originates.
Fascism
The country is ruled by a totalitarian and corporatist government. It has also gone by the names Nazism, Baathism, Corporatism, and Falangism.
Futarchy
System of government proposed by Economist Robin Hanson based on the idea of voting on a certain outcome and then figuring out how to achieve it.
Geniocracy
a system of government which was first proposed by Rael (leader of the International Raëlian Movement) in 1977 and which advocates problem-solving and creative intelligence as criteria for regional governance
Gerontocracy
a form of oligarchical rule in which an entity is ruled by leaders who are significantly older than most of the adult population.
Kakistocracy
Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens, "Government by the worst."
Kleptocracy
a term applied to a government that extends the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats) at the expense of the population.
Kratocracy
government by those who are strong enough to seize power through force or cunning.
Kritocracy or Krytocracy
a government ruled by judges.
Kritarchy
a form of order springing from judgments made from principles of natural rights.
Logocracy
government by words.
Meritocracy
a government or other organization wherein appointments are made and responsibilities are given based on demonstrated talent and ability.
Minarchy
a political ideology which maintains that the state's only legitimate function is the protection of individuals from aggression.
Mobocracy or Ochlocracy
government by mob or a mass of people, or the intimidation of constitutional authorities.
Monarchy
a form of government in which supreme power is absolutely or nominally lodged with an individual, who is the head of state, often for life or until abdication. A monarchy usually possesses more checks and balances than an autocracy or dictatorship.
Noocracy
a social and political system that is based on the priority of human mind.
Oligarchy
a form of government in which power effectively rests with a small elite segment of society distinguished by royal, wealth, intellectual, family, military or religious hegemony.
Panarchracy
a political philosophy emphasizing each individual's right to freely join and leave the jurisdiction of any governments they choose, without being forced to move from their current locale.
Plutocracy
rule by the wealthy, or power provided by wealth.
Socialist republic or people's republic
a state run by a communist party that pretends to be following the progression from capitalism to socialism to communism hypothesized by Karl Marx. Strangely enough, all of them get stuck in the socialist phase and never actually get on to the communism part.
Sociocracy
a system of governance using consent-based decision making among equivalent individuals and an organizational structure based on cybernetic principles.
Stratocracy
a system of government in which there is no distinction between the military and the civil power.
Technocracy
a form of government in which engineers, scientists, and other technical experts are in control of decision making in their respective fields.
Theocracy
a form of government in which a god or deity is recognized as the state's supreme civil ruler. Since said god or deity is usually absent from decision making, a church sponsored leader or leaders will rule instead.
Theodemocracy
a political system theorized by Joseph Smith, Jr., founder of the Latter Day Saint movement (Mormons). As the name implies, theodemocracy was meant to be a fusion of traditional republican democractic rights under the United States Constitution combined with theocratic elements.
Timocracy
either:a state where only property owners may participate in government; or a government where rulers are selected and perpetuated based on the degree of honor they hold relative to others in their society, peer group or class.
Anarchy is lack of government, as there is no governing authority; in anarchy there is no government and each individual has absolute liberty. It is important to note, however, that the lack of a government to enforce laws does not automatically imply that there are no laws; anarcho-capitalism in particular posits a form of anarchy with a body of explicit laws.
Aristocracy
A form of government in which a select few rule based on inherited hereditary right.
Autocracy
A form of government in which the political power is held by a single, self-appointed ruler.
Communist state
a hypothetical entity to which communists can refer when approached with the inconvenient realities of the socialist "republics" run by communist parties. It is notable however that even under Marxist theory communism is supposed to be stateless.
Corporatocracy
a form of government where a corporation, a group of corporations, or government entities with private components, control the direction and governance of a country.
Demarchy
a hypothetical political system run by randomly selected decision makers who have been selected by sortition. Think selecting a legislature or executive in the same manner that a jury is presently selected.
Democracy
Refers to a broad range of types of government based upon the "consent of the governed." In its purest form it is the same thing as mobocracy, but it is usually practiced in the form of a republic, which provides checks and balances and an establishment that is able to tap an unruly mob on its collective head.
Epistemocracy
a utopian type of society and government in which people of rank, including those holding political office, are those who possess epistemic humility.
Ethnocracy
a form of government where representatives of a particular ethnic group hold a number of government posts disproportionately large to the percentage of the total population that the particular ethnic group(s) represents and use them to advance the position of their particular ethnic group(s) to the detriment of others. In Nazi Germany ethnic groups Hitler supported held all the power. Neo-Nazis often accuse Jews of possessing an ethnocracy in the person of the U.S. government, which they call the Zionist Occupation Government.
Exilarchy
a form of government, usually theocratic or monarchic, that is established and constituted for rule over an ethnic or religious diaspora rather than over the place of origin whence the diaspora originates.
Fascism
The country is ruled by a totalitarian and corporatist government. It has also gone by the names Nazism, Baathism, Corporatism, and Falangism.
Futarchy
System of government proposed by Economist Robin Hanson based on the idea of voting on a certain outcome and then figuring out how to achieve it.
Geniocracy
a system of government which was first proposed by Rael (leader of the International Raëlian Movement) in 1977 and which advocates problem-solving and creative intelligence as criteria for regional governance
Gerontocracy
a form of oligarchical rule in which an entity is ruled by leaders who are significantly older than most of the adult population.
Kakistocracy
Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens, "Government by the worst."
Kleptocracy
a term applied to a government that extends the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats) at the expense of the population.
Kratocracy
government by those who are strong enough to seize power through force or cunning.
Kritocracy or Krytocracy
a government ruled by judges.
Kritarchy
a form of order springing from judgments made from principles of natural rights.
Logocracy
government by words.
Meritocracy
a government or other organization wherein appointments are made and responsibilities are given based on demonstrated talent and ability.
Minarchy
a political ideology which maintains that the state's only legitimate function is the protection of individuals from aggression.
Mobocracy or Ochlocracy
government by mob or a mass of people, or the intimidation of constitutional authorities.
Monarchy
a form of government in which supreme power is absolutely or nominally lodged with an individual, who is the head of state, often for life or until abdication. A monarchy usually possesses more checks and balances than an autocracy or dictatorship.
Noocracy
a social and political system that is based on the priority of human mind.
Oligarchy
a form of government in which power effectively rests with a small elite segment of society distinguished by royal, wealth, intellectual, family, military or religious hegemony.
Panarchracy
a political philosophy emphasizing each individual's right to freely join and leave the jurisdiction of any governments they choose, without being forced to move from their current locale.
Plutocracy
rule by the wealthy, or power provided by wealth.
Socialist republic or people's republic
a state run by a communist party that pretends to be following the progression from capitalism to socialism to communism hypothesized by Karl Marx. Strangely enough, all of them get stuck in the socialist phase and never actually get on to the communism part.
Sociocracy
a system of governance using consent-based decision making among equivalent individuals and an organizational structure based on cybernetic principles.
Stratocracy
a system of government in which there is no distinction between the military and the civil power.
Technocracy
a form of government in which engineers, scientists, and other technical experts are in control of decision making in their respective fields.
Theocracy
a form of government in which a god or deity is recognized as the state's supreme civil ruler. Since said god or deity is usually absent from decision making, a church sponsored leader or leaders will rule instead.
Theodemocracy
a political system theorized by Joseph Smith, Jr., founder of the Latter Day Saint movement (Mormons). As the name implies, theodemocracy was meant to be a fusion of traditional republican democractic rights under the United States Constitution combined with theocratic elements.
Timocracy
either:a state where only property owners may participate in government; or a government where rulers are selected and perpetuated based on the degree of honor they hold relative to others in their society, peer group or class.
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How you know America is not a center-right country, far to the left of Hillary: [View all]
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
OP
One issue is myopic....but she is Hardcore Liberal according to "On The Issues"
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2014
#129
I just want to know her stance on the above... and I really hate the libertarians little ruse of a
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#131
Is that little graph from 'on the issues'? I believe it was developed by the Libertarians as a
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#136
I am not a purist of any stripe...nor am I Authoritarian...nor am I deeming others not "Liberal"
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2014
#72
The democratic party is not a left party, except in comparison to the republicans
Scootaloo
Feb 2014
#25
Everything you say is true. There is no doubt the country is to the left of Clinton/Obama and 90%
BlueStreak
Feb 2014
#2
It's on! Woohoo! If not Russ, Bernie has said he will run just to get our issues out front and
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#93
We have to convince her that her policy positions can easily cost her the election....
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#149
Obama came out of th epack and shot to the front. There is no pack this time.
BlueStreak
Feb 2014
#118
The point is that says nothing about where the public is vis-a-vis Hillary's opolicy positions.
BlueStreak
Feb 2014
#116
I DO know about the chart and THAT is the overall score...go read it yourself.
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2014
#140
She stands for winning and power, and whatever means will bring those to her, she unflinchingly
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2014
#3
Both Bill and Hill are charming. Both are getting richer and richer because corps
rhett o rick
Feb 2014
#5
I agree, but she's running (?) for Democratic candidate, not Moderate Socialist candidate.
JaneyVee
Feb 2014
#6
Good additions! Can we please hear her positions on these from supporters (chirp, chirp, chirp...)
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#11
All higher education should be free. Funny how she's asking for more visas while
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#21
I think "aging" is just trying to divert the argument away from fact based discussion.
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#103
If America is "center-right" and America's far to the LEFT of Hillary, then she's far right.
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#38
I call them over the edge reactionary radical regressives and delusional Birch Society holdovers.
TheKentuckian
Feb 2014
#46
I would call her advocating for war with Syria a far right position, correct? Can
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#107
If this is true...Bernie Sanders should have no problem winning the Presidency. nt
Cali_Democrat
Feb 2014
#47
Go left, yes, but it will never be, not under plutocrat rule, never. K & R for truth, enough of
mother earth
Feb 2014
#49
Tisk tisk. The worshippers are only conserned with voting for who can win, not who is good for us.
L0oniX
Feb 2014
#50
They should have to wear a logo for each of their corporate sponsors just like a race car driver.
L0oniX
Feb 2014
#135
How's that working for Obama? We need a populist that can rally the people, IMHO. The
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#63
Well, I'd like to see someone to the left of Hillary win in the primaries. If not that, at least get
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#61
What is a moderate on economic issues mean? Do you consider NAFTA and the TPP as moderate? nm
rhett o rick
Feb 2014
#91
You can't just average every American's view (or set of views), and then declare America ...
JoePhilly
Feb 2014
#68
Bernie has said he will run if no effective progressive emerges. Further, they do it all the time,
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#98
Interestingly, Bernie is also very popular with the republicans of Vermont and NH, because he
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#111
I can understand why fiscal conservatives and Reagan Democrats would support Hillary,
bvar22
Feb 2014
#115
You must think that the next president is going to get a more receptive Congress
Beacool
Feb 2014
#120
Hey, just give me three so I won't feel like a total choade when I have to vote for her, lol!
grahamhgreen
Feb 2014
#124