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grahamhgreen

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136. Is that little graph from 'on the issues'? I believe it was developed by the Libertarians as a
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 07:25 PM
Feb 2014

way to eliminate discourse concerning other political parties and philosophies. Note the the only actual political party listed on the chart is Libertarian.

Here's a list from Wiki of the systems that the Nolan chart fails to encompass:

Anarchy
Anarchy is lack of government, as there is no governing authority; in anarchy there is no government and each individual has absolute liberty. It is important to note, however, that the lack of a government to enforce laws does not automatically imply that there are no laws; anarcho-capitalism in particular posits a form of anarchy with a body of explicit laws.
Aristocracy
A form of government in which a select few rule based on inherited hereditary right.
Autocracy
A form of government in which the political power is held by a single, self-appointed ruler.
Communist state
a hypothetical entity to which communists can refer when approached with the inconvenient realities of the socialist "republics" run by communist parties. It is notable however that even under Marxist theory communism is supposed to be stateless.
Corporatocracy
a form of government where a corporation, a group of corporations, or government entities with private components, control the direction and governance of a country.
Demarchy
a hypothetical political system run by randomly selected decision makers who have been selected by sortition. Think selecting a legislature or executive in the same manner that a jury is presently selected.
Democracy
Refers to a broad range of types of government based upon the "consent of the governed." In its purest form it is the same thing as mobocracy, but it is usually practiced in the form of a republic, which provides checks and balances and an establishment that is able to tap an unruly mob on its collective head.
Epistemocracy
a utopian type of society and government in which people of rank, including those holding political office, are those who possess epistemic humility.
Ethnocracy
a form of government where representatives of a particular ethnic group hold a number of government posts disproportionately large to the percentage of the total population that the particular ethnic group(s) represents and use them to advance the position of their particular ethnic group(s) to the detriment of others. In Nazi Germany ethnic groups Hitler supported held all the power. Neo-Nazis often accuse Jews of possessing an ethnocracy in the person of the U.S. government, which they call the Zionist Occupation Government.
Exilarchy
a form of government, usually theocratic or monarchic, that is established and constituted for rule over an ethnic or religious diaspora rather than over the place of origin whence the diaspora originates.
Fascism
The country is ruled by a totalitarian and corporatist government. It has also gone by the names Nazism, Baathism, Corporatism, and Falangism.
Futarchy
System of government proposed by Economist Robin Hanson based on the idea of voting on a certain outcome and then figuring out how to achieve it.
Geniocracy
a system of government which was first proposed by Rael (leader of the International Raëlian Movement) in 1977 and which advocates problem-solving and creative intelligence as criteria for regional governance
Gerontocracy
a form of oligarchical rule in which an entity is ruled by leaders who are significantly older than most of the adult population.
Kakistocracy
Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens, "Government by the worst."
Kleptocracy
a term applied to a government that extends the personal wealth and political power of government officials and the ruling class (collectively, kleptocrats) at the expense of the population.
Kratocracy
government by those who are strong enough to seize power through force or cunning.
Kritocracy or Krytocracy
a government ruled by judges.
Kritarchy
a form of order springing from judgments made from principles of natural rights.
Logocracy
government by words.
Meritocracy
a government or other organization wherein appointments are made and responsibilities are given based on demonstrated talent and ability.
Minarchy
a political ideology which maintains that the state's only legitimate function is the protection of individuals from aggression.
Mobocracy or Ochlocracy
government by mob or a mass of people, or the intimidation of constitutional authorities.
Monarchy
a form of government in which supreme power is absolutely or nominally lodged with an individual, who is the head of state, often for life or until abdication. A monarchy usually possesses more checks and balances than an autocracy or dictatorship.
Noocracy
a social and political system that is based on the priority of human mind.
Oligarchy
a form of government in which power effectively rests with a small elite segment of society distinguished by royal, wealth, intellectual, family, military or religious hegemony.
Panarchracy
a political philosophy emphasizing each individual's right to freely join and leave the jurisdiction of any governments they choose, without being forced to move from their current locale.
Plutocracy
rule by the wealthy, or power provided by wealth.
Socialist republic or people's republic
a state run by a communist party that pretends to be following the progression from capitalism to socialism to communism hypothesized by Karl Marx. Strangely enough, all of them get stuck in the socialist phase and never actually get on to the communism part.
Sociocracy
a system of governance using consent-based decision making among equivalent individuals and an organizational structure based on cybernetic principles.
Stratocracy
a system of government in which there is no distinction between the military and the civil power.
Technocracy
a form of government in which engineers, scientists, and other technical experts are in control of decision making in their respective fields.
Theocracy
a form of government in which a god or deity is recognized as the state's supreme civil ruler. Since said god or deity is usually absent from decision making, a church sponsored leader or leaders will rule instead.
Theodemocracy
a political system theorized by Joseph Smith, Jr., founder of the Latter Day Saint movement (Mormons). As the name implies, theodemocracy was meant to be a fusion of traditional republican democractic rights under the United States Constitution combined with theocratic elements.
Timocracy
either:a state where only property owners may participate in government; or a government where rulers are selected and perpetuated based on the degree of honor they hold relative to others in their society, peer group or class.

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Oh really...Far to the left? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #1
Where does she stand on the above mentioned issues? grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #4
Wait for the crickets Armstead Feb 2014 #13
crickets? I was asleep...I live on the East Coast...damn! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #66
So do I...but sometimes I have insomnia Armstead Feb 2014 #67
Well I didn't happen to have it last night... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #70
For or against the above? grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #127
One issue is myopic....but she is Hardcore Liberal according to "On The Issues" VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #129
I just want to know her stance on the above... and I really hate the libertarians little ruse of a grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #131
On the issues is Libertarian now? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #133
Is that little graph from 'on the issues'? I believe it was developed by the Libertarians as a grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #136
that is a really pathetic attempt dude... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #138
Not an attempt, a question. Would have liked an answer... grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #141
What question..... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #142
Is that little graph from 'on the issues'? Where did it come from? grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #145
Yes it is... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #146
Authoritarian Purist Reply - "...they're not real democrats dammit!!..." uponit7771 Feb 2014 #12
I am not a purist of any stripe...nor am I Authoritarian...nor am I deeming others not "Liberal" VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #72
The democratic party is not a left party, except in comparison to the republicans Scootaloo Feb 2014 #25
No she hasn't said she would run yet...that is a Damn Lie! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #73
Thought she had. My bad, then! Scootaloo Feb 2014 #82
screws your whole premise doesn't it? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #84
Why do Democrats support her? Because they don't know what she is about. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #36
Perhaps it is YOU that doesn't and they do... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #74
Because they're believing the hype that only she can win. WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2014 #40
hype? When she has the STRONGEST lead this far out ever recorded? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #75
They all just want Bill back in the White House. WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2014 #87
Oh yeah...that makes perfect sense...Right... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #89
Her ONLY support is from the party faithful and the 1%. Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #41
Her "only" support is 73% of the Party ALREADY!!!!! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #76
"of the party." Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #128
Hardcore Liberal...how are they "far to the left" of her? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #130
Name recognition. After being Gore's running mate, Lieberdweeb led the field tblue37 Feb 2014 #51
yeah whatever gets you through the night... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #77
Agreed, there is part of the left that simply refuses to recognize treestar Feb 2014 #53
And I keep trying to point that out to them... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #78
A lot of people are further left than they realize. Their positions on tblue37 Feb 2014 #99
and Hillary is more Left than many give her credit for... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #132
Deep in the subconscious of America Steerpike Feb 2014 #143
Actually Hillary is a Hardcore Liberal... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #144
Everything you say is true. There is no doubt the country is to the left of Clinton/Obama and 90% BlueStreak Feb 2014 #2
Let her win a hotly contested primary then dreamnightwind Feb 2014 #9
OK. Then who will it be? BlueStreak Feb 2014 #19
Feinstein. Sanders. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #22
Diane Feinstein? She makes Hillary look like Noam Chomshy. BlueStreak Feb 2014 #24
+1 (n/t) Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #27
DINO DiFi? Not to mention, she's 80 years old NOW. truebluegreen Feb 2014 #37
Oops!!! Feingold, lol! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #56
That's better. :) BlueStreak Feb 2014 #59
That is what Sanders seems to have in mind. nt tblue37 Feb 2014 #100
okay....bring it! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #81
It's on! Woohoo! If not Russ, Bernie has said he will run just to get our issues out front and grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #93
First you have to convince them to oppose her..... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #94
We have to convince her that her policy positions can easily cost her the election.... grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #149
No we don't... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #150
OMG. That chart is libertarian BS! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #152
Bullshit! Its a Non profit non partisan out of Cambridge... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #154
Oh, good. Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #148
I am not convinced... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #155
Just two months ago dreamnightwind Feb 2014 #28
I welcome a progressive challenger. There aren't any. BlueStreak Feb 2014 #39
OMG, that's what I heard about Obama, lol!!! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #108
Obama came out of th epack and shot to the front. There is no pack this time. BlueStreak Feb 2014 #118
I was impressed with Bill De Blasio on The Daily Show. Maedhros Feb 2014 #137
Warren has only 8% in that poll.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #83
hahahahahaha...Okay.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #80
Sotomayor? Kagan? DonCoquixote Feb 2014 #92
More conservative than the justices they replaced - eom dreamnightwind Feb 2014 #147
"Obviously" no they are not...73% belies your position on this... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #79
Personalities versus policies BlueStreak Feb 2014 #90
But we don't go to the voting booth to vote on individual issues.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #95
The point is that says nothing about where the public is vis-a-vis Hillary's opolicy positions. BlueStreak Feb 2014 #116
Not necessarily true.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #121
I don't know about the chart BlueStreak Feb 2014 #139
I DO know about the chart and THAT is the overall score...go read it yourself. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #140
She stands for winning and power, and whatever means will bring those to her, she unflinchingly Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #3
She is also a hardcore Liberal according to "On the issues... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #123
Both Bill and Hill are charming. Both are getting richer and richer because corps rhett o rick Feb 2014 #5
The inbreeding and corruption among the elites is sickening Armstead Feb 2014 #15
Disgusting isn't it warrant46 Feb 2014 #42
I agree, but she's running (?) for Democratic candidate, not Moderate Socialist candidate. JaneyVee Feb 2014 #6
Most of those positions are held by the majority of all Americans. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #10
Whats wrong with moderate socialist? Armstead Feb 2014 #16
Hell, I'll take Liberal LBJ Candidate. So what happened to Warren? Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #44
what happened? She's only polling 8% VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #153
EXACTLY! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #156
A few more items to add to this list... cascadiance Feb 2014 #7
Good additions! Can we please hear her positions on these from supporters (chirp, chirp, chirp...) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #11
Well she definitely is on the wrong side of item three on my list... cascadiance Feb 2014 #18
All higher education should be free. Funny how she's asking for more visas while grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #21
Why....you can see her positions right here... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #157
I agree with all of those. That is a good list. RC Feb 2014 #8
nice logo dreamnightwind Feb 2014 #31
Thank you. RC Feb 2014 #45
beholden to Wall Street and BIG banks and not us little people. warrant46 Feb 2014 #43
Oh really....a Liberal.. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #158
Fail AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #14
Can you enlighten us as to her stance on some if these issues? grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #23
Fail AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #26
True failure is grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #30
Read your thread title AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #33
C'mon now, what are her policy positions:) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #57
Why don't you tell us AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #58
LOL;) Is she for or against cutting social security? (ie Chained CPI) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #60
Chained CPI is Obama's baby AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #62
Is she for or against it? grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #65
She hasn't made any statements on it AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #69
Why are you unwilling to defend her? grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #102
Why would I defend her? AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #160
Well, at least we KNOW she will protect the top 6%. bvar22 Feb 2014 #110
Considering your sig line dreamnightwind Feb 2014 #32
And what AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #34
What's wrong with the thread title? Looks good to me. dreamnightwind Feb 2014 #35
I think "aging" is just trying to divert the argument away from fact based discussion. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #103
How about Jobs... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #159
K&R Scuba Feb 2014 #17
Kill the TPP??? She played a leading part in drafting it! antigop Feb 2014 #20
This. Earth_First Feb 2014 #48
Other than a "real" gay, fadedrose Feb 2014 #29
If America is "center-right" and America's far to the LEFT of Hillary, then she's far right. pnwmom Feb 2014 #38
I call them over the edge reactionary radical regressives and delusional Birch Society holdovers. TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #46
I would call her advocating for war with Syria a far right position, correct? Can grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #107
If this is true...Bernie Sanders should have no problem winning the Presidency. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #47
I think he would win. Even folks that voted for Bush voted for Bernie!!! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #109
Go left, yes, but it will never be, not under plutocrat rule, never. K & R for truth, enough of mother earth Feb 2014 #49
Tisk tisk. The worshippers are only conserned with voting for who can win, not who is good for us. L0oniX Feb 2014 #50
They aren't good for us if they can't win. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #64
"only conserned with voting for who can win" bvar22 Feb 2014 #112
So uhm ...is that what they call the "money shot"? L0oniX Feb 2014 #113
Bob Shrum was on Ed Schultz last week, bvar22 Feb 2014 #117
They should have to wear a logo for each of their corporate sponsors just like a race car driver. L0oniX Feb 2014 #135
Or perhaps we need leaders who can succeed in intermediate steps... Orsino Feb 2014 #52
How's that working for Obama? We need a populist that can rally the people, IMHO. The grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #63
It's working very well for the president... Orsino Feb 2014 #71
We may have to call off the coronation Proud Public Servant Feb 2014 #54
Hillary has been tireless on women's rights - TBF Feb 2014 #55
Well, I'd like to see someone to the left of Hillary win in the primaries. If not that, at least get grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #61
she is not. Whisp Feb 2014 #86
She's a hawk. WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2014 #88
What is a moderate on economic issues mean? Do you consider NAFTA and the TPP as moderate? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #91
"Moderate" may be too kind - TBF Feb 2014 #106
You can't just average every American's view (or set of views), and then declare America ... JoePhilly Feb 2014 #68
Exactly. great white snark Feb 2014 #96
I'm trying to find out policy positions, not insult you:) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #101
Bernie has said he will run if no effective progressive emerges. Further, they do it all the time, grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #98
Again, the average of "most" Americans does not accurately reflect America. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #105
Interestingly, Bernie is also very popular with the republicans of Vermont and NH, because he grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #111
It's pretty simple to find position policies. LanternWaste Feb 2014 #85
A simple for or against the above positions is what I'm looking for. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #97
Dems Phlem Feb 2014 #104
Obama didn't support gay marriage when he won Exciting Trip Feb 2014 #114
He didn't support gays in the military either. Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #126
I can understand why fiscal conservatives and Reagan Democrats would support Hillary, bvar22 Feb 2014 #115
How do I know America is NOT a Center-Right Nation? bvar22 Feb 2014 #119
+1 grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #125
You must think that the next president is going to get a more receptive Congress Beacool Feb 2014 #120
Is that all you want? Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #122
Hey, just give me three so I won't feel like a total choade when I have to vote for her, lol! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #124
Agree. It is not a matter of "getting all of these". bvar22 Feb 2014 #134
Her term will be a continuation of Obama's Doctor_J Feb 2014 #151
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