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48. I'm out of time

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #44)

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 11:34 PM

Feb 2014

As much as I'm enjoying the discussion I can't stay. Hopefully we can pick up on it another time soon.

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No jail for "affluenza" fuckwad who killed 4- again. [View all] cali Feb 2014 OP

Wish they could stick his brain into xfundy Feb 2014 #1

They should just shoot him in the back of the head. DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #2

A few years in jail would suffice. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #3

He is the only teenager that has ever driven drunk. DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #5

You think 5 years in jail is not justice? n-t Logical Feb 2014 #6

If he's a grown man with priors, probably DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #9

So a DUI to you should be punished the same if no one dies vs. 5 people die? I think.... Logical Feb 2014 #12

People died and that's horrible DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #15

You need some downside to killing people through intentional negligence.... Logical Feb 2014 #18

That may be true, but everyone here knows if this kid had been poor and/or black... pink-o Feb 2014 #80

Of course it wasn't intentional. That's why it's manslaughter, not murder. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #55

And he probably will be a grown man with priors before too long.. mountain grammy Feb 2014 #59

He did have priors. This was not Ethan Couch's first DUI offense. smokey nj Feb 2014 #72

Let us be honest. If he was not from a wealthy family, avebury Feb 2014 #78

Not the only one who's ever driven drunk...but likely the only one Ken Burch Feb 2014 #29

Why don't you direct your ire at that judge truebluegreen Feb 2014 #4

Two wrongs don't make a right. DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #7

You are assuming facts not in evidence, counselor. truebluegreen Feb 2014 #14

You are confused DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #17

Somebody certainly is. truebluegreen Feb 2014 #28

Obviously giving the other kid 20 years was wrong DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #31

You seem determined to keep answering the wrong question. truebluegreen Feb 2014 #67

Throwing both kids in jail for 20 years. n/t ieoeja Feb 2014 #83

Thanks for your input, but it sidesteps the question truebluegreen Feb 2014 #87

No, it does not. ieoeja Feb 2014 #90

Your answer would have been helpful truebluegreen Feb 2014 #91

He/she was obviously *was* talking about two things that "might" have happened. ieoeja Feb 2014 #92

You're basically saying that it's FINE that this kid got off scot-free Ken Burch Feb 2014 #30

I'm saying prison isn't a magic bullet DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #34

Nobody here believes that prison is a magic bullet. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #38

I'm not at all surprised by the "blowback" DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #41

My opinion wasn't "pro-prison"...it's "pro-consequences" Ken Burch Feb 2014 #42

Restitution isn't that simple in a criminal case DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #45

His parents are insanely rich...THEY could pay. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #47

He was tried as an adult DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #57

So you don't think he should face any jail time for killing innocent people? Rex Feb 2014 #10

Prison is America's answer for everything. DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #13

So that is a long way of saying, 'no I do not think a murderer needs to pay for their crimes.' Rex Feb 2014 #19

You think this was murder? DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #20

Not really, you seem to be incapable of placing blame on this person Rex Feb 2014 #22

Why must we assume that prison is the only way to "take responsibility"? DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #24

Because of the severity of the crime committed? Otherwise no one has suggest such a thing. Rex Feb 2014 #25

You're using the WRONG case for the point you're trying to make here. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #33

It's perfectly possible to be against mass incarceration Ken Burch Feb 2014 #43

+1 Rex Feb 2014 #54

What do you believe should be his consequences? Evergreen Emerald Feb 2014 #76

What was it if it wasn't murder? Ken Burch Feb 2014 #49

Murder is an intention killing DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #56

To make the distinction is to minimize. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #58

This isn't the case to use if you're making an argument against prisons. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #32

Again you assume that prison cause people to "learn" DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #37

I agree with letting the poor kid out. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #40

I'm sorry I am part of the "progressive" mob and I haven't heard anyone advocate such extremes Drew Richards Feb 2014 #16

No just let him out soon to kill a few more people. alphafemale Feb 2014 #21

If only it was that simple DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #23

But this kid wasn't given any NON-prison forms of punishment. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #35

If he went to prison odds are EXCEEDINGLY HIGH that he would never kill someone with his car again.. TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #36

Of course it does DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #39

So present an alternative. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #44

I'm out of time DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #48

Thanks for admitting you just came here to be a shit-stirrer. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #51

Defending the rich is a rewarding job. jsr Feb 2014 #60

And then reimburse them for the costs with a tax cut. Ken Burch Feb 2014 #61

The victims should really apologize. jsr Feb 2014 #63

Darn right. And there's NOTHING less "pro-life" Ken Burch Feb 2014 #68

And then reimburse them for the costs they incurred buying their freedom Ken Burch Feb 2014 #62

Your China comparison lacks an important detail TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #82

let me explain this to you really simply: As long as the norm is prison time for these cali Feb 2014 #74

I was always bothered when the rightwingers would call Ted Kennedy a murderer Chathamization Feb 2014 #64

No, asshole. What should be an appropriate punishment is for him to spend as much time cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #66

It's the class distinction that is at issue.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #69

people like you get more outraged at those who are angry over what happened JI7 Feb 2014 #70

he should have gone to prison. I never, ever advocate violence. cali Feb 2014 #73

Red Herring, Red Herring! Springslips Feb 2014 #79

Come the hell on Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #84

Nope. I've told my sons since they were young... tnlefty Feb 2014 #89

And now........... PumpkinAle Feb 2014 #8

The wealthy live by different rules then the working class. Rex Feb 2014 #11

The only law at the parasite level is that you can never, ever fuck with another parasite. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #26

Yes it is our reality in 2014. Rex Feb 2014 #27

Sad, but true. n/t PumpkinAle Feb 2014 #86

Brilliant find.... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #85

Moral of the story: Rich people don't go to prison. jsr Feb 2014 #46

Must be nice to be so rich. blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #50

This should be cause celeb for Democrats in Texas. denverbill Feb 2014 #52

Another prime example of the paradise that is Texass. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #53

The stupid hurts. blackspade Feb 2014 #65

But if you pee on the Alamo... 3catwoman3 Feb 2014 #71

The best solution? Make Ethan Couch this judge's personal driver nt Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #75

That is a great idea! Eom Redford Feb 2014 #81

Thank you! :-) Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #88

I hope people are watching and scrutinizing every action he does for the rest of his life ck4829 Feb 2014 #77

He is a teenager gerogie2 Feb 2014 #93