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In reply to the discussion: Zimmerman heard to be using racial slur on 911 tape [View all]leveymg
(36,418 posts)32. 9/11 operators need to issue clear, forceful "Do not pursue" commands. Call it a "Zimmerman warning"
There needs to be a federal law that covers all such cases nationwide, particularly in "stand your ground states." There has to be a clear rule that armed civilians cannot chase down other citizens. People need to understand that unauthorized pursuit while armed amounts to a crime, vigilantism, and is already a violation of federal Civil Rights laws.
Here's the present Florida statute, which is ambiguous:
Florida Laws: FL Statutes - Title XLVI Crimes Section 776.012 Use of force in defense of person.
776.031 Use of force in defense of others.
A person is justified in the use of force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on, or other tortious or criminal interference with, either real property other than a dwelling or personal property, lawfully in his or her possession or in the possession of another who is a member of his or her immediate family or household or of a person whose property he or she has a legal duty to protect. However, the person is justified in the use of deadly force only if he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person does not have a duty to retreat if the person is in a place where he or she has a right to be.
History.--s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1189, ch. 97-102; s. 3, ch. 2005-27.
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Are you counting the murder of a child among those times when we shouldn't be serious?
Zalatix
Mar 2012
#90
And how many people "on the fence" do you think you'd reach with that statement?
jeff47
Mar 2012
#103
I wouldn't say he was a child. He was a minor, a teen, but "child" usu. means
Honeycombe8
Mar 2012
#139
The dispatcher said 'sir, you don't need to be saying things like that,' or something very close
Cirque du So-What
Mar 2012
#8
I can understand for a racial description, since it'd help police know the guy,
Honeycombe8
Mar 2012
#140
Recced for visibility. The local police chief should be arrested for negligence and accessory
leveymg
Mar 2012
#9
I also hear "f-cking c--ns" muttered @ 2:21. The dispatcher then tells him not to follow.
leveymg
Mar 2012
#24
Heard it too....whispered, under the breath but very clear that is what he said....
Pachamama
Mar 2012
#46
It could be either "fuckin' coons" or "fuckin' punks" as far as I can tell.
Comrade Grumpy
Mar 2012
#65
because Zimmerman is running & breathing heavy, it is muttered in a low voice. You miss it at first.
unapatriciated
Mar 2012
#18
I listened. Dispatcher should have told him, at that point, that he appreciated
ScreamingMeemie
Mar 2012
#31
9/11 operators need to issue clear, forceful "Do not pursue" commands. Call it a "Zimmerman warning"
leveymg
Mar 2012
#32
Rodney King's "luck" was that someone was videotaping the incident a block away.
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2012
#43
FL. is a good place to start. There is no way this case is going to get buried
EmeraldCityGrl
Mar 2012
#44
Operator asked if "suspicous" person Zimmerman claimed he saw was black, white or hispanic.
LisaL
Mar 2012
#70
He's prob left the country, and tossed the murder weapon..the holdup is Sandford Police
HipChick
Mar 2012
#104
Ah, I see. I don't have the site blocked...the AV program decides those things.
Honeycombe8
Mar 2012
#143
I've been too squeamish to listen to the tapes, but I think I'll tune into O'Donnell.
myrna minx
Mar 2012
#116
Are you sure? That's such an old fashioned term. Even racists don't use that term anymore,
Honeycombe8
Mar 2012
#118
Then I will consider myself lucky. Altho I know plenty of racists. They use the N word.
Honeycombe8
Mar 2012
#138