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150. You haven't read either of the long Vanity Fair articles, which included interviews
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 02:46 AM
Feb 2014

from most of the living siblings.

None of the 8 interviewed for the 2013 article complained that adopted children had been treated any differently, much less like scullery maids; in fact, they said the opposite.

Soon-Yi was adopted by Farrow and Previn only one year before they were divorced, and Allen and Farrow began their relationship one year after that. So Soon-Yi saw more of Allen than she did of Previn. There are reports that falsely imply that Allen never spent any time at their residence. That was probably true in NY, but it wasn't in Connecticut. The Vanity Fair article said Woody often stayed in Mia's house there, until the problems started and Mia made him stay in the guest cottage.

FROM 1992:

http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/archive/1992/11/farrow199211

Previn has also been supportive of Mia, and has told friends, “If Mia is not a good mother, then Jascha Heifetz didn’t know how to play the violin.” Ironically, Woody Allen in the recent past praised Mia specifically as a mother. He told Eric Lax, the author of his 1991 biography, “She has raised nine children now with no trauma, and has never owned a thermometer. I take my temperature every two hours in the course of the day.”

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To those on the inside, however, who have watched the departure of Soon-Yi from the family, who have heard Dylan on the videotape and seen her changes of behavior, who have read the lurid headlines about Mia, who know about another approach Woody apparently made within the family, and who wonder if their phones are being tapped, Woody Allen is a chilling figure of power, a potentate of reel life who doesn’t seem to have to play by the rules. “This man is so exalted in the business—no one has the position he has. Until recently he hasn’t had to submit a script or anything,” says Leonard Gershe. “I think when you get up into that stratosphere you no longer have to pay attention to the law of gravity. Regular morals, conscience, ethics—that’s for slobs like you and me.” The effect, says Gershe, “spills over into real life. He’s treated like a little god, and little gods don’t have to do what everybody else does.” “He just scares me,” says a member of the household. “I think he scares everyone who knows all the things he has done. And anybody who is close to him—that he has the potential of destroying—I think is scared of him.”

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“Most of my students are New York City kids. Many have parents who are glamorous and famous, and most of these kids are very neglected and troubled and grow up very fast,” says Audrey Sieger, who has been tutoring the children in the Previn-Farrow-Allen household for the last 12 years. “Mia’s family is very unusual. She—at any time in these 12 years—has been able to tell me in detail about every one of her kids. These kids travel on buses with bus passes. They cook dinner for each other. They do their own laundry. Different kids over the years have been assigned the job of going to the supermarket. They have not been raised by nannies.” Mia, according to Sieger, was “warm, loving, sincere, and throughout all my years of working with the kids, having them at my office, calling at home, they were happy kids, giggling and laughing and involved with each other.”

“I couldn’t get over how much the biological kids weren’t favored. They all viewed each other as equal and always referred to each other as ‘my brother,’ ‘my sister,’ ” says Lorrie Pierce, who has gone to the house to teach the children piano for the last seven or eight years. “Mia passes down family heirlooms to each one, without regard to who is adopted.” The piano teacher echoes the tutor: “She’s the one that kids threw up on. She gets right in the arena and does all the dirty work. She doesn’t push them off onto the help.” Every September, Mia would start a new film with Woody, and, according to those in the household, there was rarely a day when at least one of the children didn’t accompany her to the set; she turned her dressing room at the Kaufman-Astoria Studios into a nursery for them. Creating a large family “is not the act of a compulsive. It’s too much hard work,” says Mia’s friend Rose Styron, the human-rights-activist wife of novelist William Styron, who is Soon-Yi’s godmother. “I’ve never known anyone who cared so selflessly about children, and who put so much of herself into them.… They always came first.” Perhaps that was the key issue for Woody: who came first? One of the people who has spoken up for him, his costume designer Jeffrey Kurland, said in New York magazine, “Why this constant need [of Mia’s] for infants and little ones? Get on with your life!”

FROM 2013:

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/10/mia-farrow-children-family-scandal

Twenty years after Vanity Fair special correspondent Maureen Orth reported on the sexual-abuse case involving Woody Allen and Mia Farrow’s adopted daughter Dylan, Orth reconnects with Farrow to discuss her human-rights work, her relationship with Frank Sinatra, the home she created for her 14 adopted and biological children, and the scandal that nearly destroyed it, 20 years ago. For her piece in the November issue, Orth talks to eight of Farrow’s children, including the long-silent Dylan, who speaks on the record for the first time about the alleged incident.

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Farrow’s son Fletcher Previn, who built his first computer at the age of 13, tells Orth that he has Photoshopped Allen out of every single family photo and edited him out of family videos so that none of them would ever have to see him again. “We can look at them and be reminded of the good and not be reminded of the bad,” Fletcher tells Orth. Of the family’s reaction to the crisis with Soon-Yi, Fletcher says, “To my siblings and me, you thought of (Allen) as another dad. It can disrupt your foundation in the world. It resets the parameters of what is possible.” He also discusses the impact Allen’s actions had on the family, telling Orth, “There were casualties, who were totally derailed. It had a different impact on everyone, but everyone had a reaction.” Fletcher singles out Lark, who died at 35. “I really do think he’s got some blood on his hands,” he says of Allen.



http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2013/11/mia-farrow-frank-sinatra-ronan-farrow

“There were never more than eight children at a time living at home,” Mia says. In essence, there are two sets of siblings, six Previns and eight Farrows. The oldest are the Previn twins, Matthew and Sascha, and their brother, Fletcher Previn. Matthew, the father of two and married to a lawyer, is a partner in a Park Avenue law firm. Sascha, a teacher, is the stay-at-home dad of a baby girl, whose mother, his second wife, is a pediatric cardiologist. Fletcher is an executive assistant at IBM; his wife is a graphics designer. The next in age, Lark, adopted from Vietnam, died in 2008 of complications from pneumonia and left two little girls; her estranged husband has a criminal record. Daisy, also from Vietnam, is a construction manager in Brooklyn, married to a musician, with a son from her first marriage. Both women as babies suffered from severe malnutrition. Soon-Yi, from Korea, now married to Woody Allen, was adopted at seven, after having been abused and abandoned by her prostitute mother. She is totally estranged from Mia’s family, and she and Allen have adopted two daughters. Her father, André Previn, says, “She does not exist.”

Mia adopted Moses, who has cerebral palsy, from Korea at two. He is a family therapist and a photographer. Separated from his wife and two children, Moses does not keep in touch with any of the others.

Dylan was adopted in 1985 from Texas. After Mia gave birth to Ronan, she adopted Isaiah, an African-American born to a crack-addicted mother; he is a senior at the University of Connecticut. Tam, a blind girl from Vietnam, died from heart problems in 2000. Next came Quincy, also African-American, who at 19 attends college and wants to be an aid worker. Thaddeus is a paraplegic; he was adopted from India. A car mechanic, he is studying to become a police officer. The last daughter, Minh, from Vietnam, is also blind.

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I was able to speak to eight of Mia’s children, who uniformly said they were not especially aware of how unique their situation was growing up. “I knew the status of my mom, but to me we were normal. My brothers were my brothers, and my sisters were my sisters. There was nothing special,” Daisy Previn, 39, told me. “We each had our own life, went to school, did our homework. My mom was there to sit down for dinner with us.” There was help in the house, but not a lot, and sometimes the teenage girls would complain about how much they had to babysit. I asked Daisy about their emotional issues and physical handicaps. “It wasn’t considered that you can’t see or you have this disability or that,” she said. “It was more that it was time to clean your rooms, so one person would help another one do it.” One of the accusations Woody Allen’s side made during the uproar with Soon-Yi was that Mia favored her biological children. Daisy disagrees: “If we got into trouble, it was no different than if a biological kid got into trouble. As far as love was concerned, there was no distinction. I gave my mom some very hard times growing up, but in the end she always said, ‘Remember, Daisy, I love you.’ ”

Most of the children used the same adjective for their situation: cool. “Not many people have that much variety, diversity. I liked that,” says Sascha Previn. “We all pitched in and helped each other out; we had to.” Isaiah, 21, who at six feet three and 275 pounds defines himself as “the large black male of the family,” adds, “In terms of size, composition, and disabilities, we weren’t normal, but we were great—we were so cool.” He credits Mia’s “unflinching honesty. She was very open about what each one of us is and where we came from. That became more normal to me than the regular 2.2 nuclear family. We got used to that as soon as we were old enough to understand some of us have physical or mental disabilities—so what? We are defined by more than just blood; we are brought together by love.”

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The only people freaking out are DURHAM D Feb 2014 #1
Actually, there IS a video WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #7
the author of the article implies that, not the investigators. they said "could be anything" which bettyellen Feb 2014 #24
Apparently you don't agree with the investigators WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #35
The prosecutor said he had probable cause but the 7 year old victim was too fragile. n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #45
Utter nonsense...and the DA was disciplined for saying such rot.... msanthrope Feb 2014 #74
Investigators said no evidence. Prosecutor was disciplined for that statement. cui bono Feb 2014 #88
The family court judge said the report was "inconclusive" and "not reliable." pnwmom Feb 2014 #141
Pedophiles leave a trail of victims. Which don't exist here. But another celebrity punching bag KittyWampus Feb 2014 #31
I would also add: Bonobo Feb 2014 #36
"Did this event actually occur? If we’re inclined to give it a second thought, we can each believe.. bettyellen Feb 2014 #2
Agree with last paragraph. DURHAM D Feb 2014 #4
I cannot believe how many people shared links to this hatchet job- and pretend it is some bettyellen Feb 2014 #12
But let's ignore the fact that a team of investigators WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #5
never saw they suggested it was coached- and that she had no vagnal tearing doesn't mean anything. bettyellen Feb 2014 #10
I have no idea where you're getting your information WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #11
the kid could be deeply disturbed or it could be coached. So, the author left out half the quote.... bettyellen Feb 2014 #15
You say "I think" a lot. WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #18
the prosecuters final word was that there was "probable cause". I said think once, you three times. bettyellen Feb 2014 #23
And that prosecutor was reprimanded for those remarks WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #25
actually- you are the one who assumes they know the truth. I repeatedly said we do not. bettyellen Feb 2014 #28
I'm basing my opinion on the facts available and WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #30
you know "innocent until guilty" is for courts, right? I totally believe in that- in courts, LOL. bettyellen Feb 2014 #33
It's fun to watch someone look at the facts WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #34
Only courts do that. People merely have benign opinions, premises and conclusions. LanternWaste Feb 2014 #100
Dylan's account had "a rehearsed quality" WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #27
And their conclusion? Could have happened, could not have happened. bettyellen Feb 2014 #29
that is NOT their conclusion at all WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #32
"We did not come to a firm conclusion. We think that it was probably a combination." Now that is a bettyellen Feb 2014 #37
Oh, for god's sake WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #38
You are a liar. CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #50
tell that to the LIAR who claimed they said she WAS coached....there were conflicting opinions all bettyellen Feb 2014 #52
For someone who doesn't know what happened you sure cthulu2016 Feb 2014 #54
because I said this article is a biased piece of shit? And I don't know what happened? bettyellen Feb 2014 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Feb 2014 #132
Wow... that's sooooo dishonest cthulu2016 Feb 2014 #51
no, they thought she could have been a severely disturbed kid. which is problematic. bettyellen Feb 2014 #53
The article was based largely on facts that are public record WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #95
we only have opinions, period. and that article left out so much that it's bias would sway anyone... bettyellen Feb 2014 #96
The woman who wrote the Vanity Fair article is a friend of Farrow's. She is also biased. El_Johns Feb 2014 #119
THEY were the ones who rehearsed her pnwmom Feb 2014 #143
Such a tactic could just as easily be harmful WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #145
This point was made by an expert in child sex abuse. Literally the woman who wrote the textbook. pnwmom Feb 2014 #147
Have you actually read the testimony by the doctor WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #148
It's not up to anyone other than the DA to prosecute jberryhill Feb 2014 #17
very weird that he'd say that thing about "probable cause" but decided to "spare her the trauma". bettyellen Feb 2014 #22
There was no physical evidence she was molested. The rest is you mangling the transcript. El_Johns Feb 2014 #39
physical evidence is often NOT there, so..... bettyellen Feb 2014 #42
The "more balanced" VF article was written by a friend of Farrow's, as was the 1992 article it El_Johns Feb 2014 #118
fuck Woody Allen CatWoman Feb 2014 #3
ditto Puzzledtraveller Feb 2014 #109
Very good article. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #6
Just so you know, that article spurred Dylan's letter. joshcryer Feb 2014 #44
It's interesting to me that the licensed family therapist in the family believes Allen. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #81
Thanks for that link..... I'd heard a lot about this but hard facts are tough to come by groundloop Feb 2014 #8
Mia Farrow's Daughter Opens Up About Alleged Abuse By Woody Allen Tx4obama Feb 2014 #9
This thread is in response to that post. nt. WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #14
Dylan Farrow's letter was a response to that article. joshcryer Feb 2014 #43
Given space by another friend of Farrow's, Nicholas Kristof. Just in time for the Oscars. El_Johns Feb 2014 #120
I wouldn't be surprised if defacto7 Feb 2014 #13
Amanda Knox, Woody Allen... please, make it stop. hunter Feb 2014 #16
Then why did you feel compelled to say something? WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #19
For WillyT... hunter Feb 2014 #20
Some people are able to learn from the experience of others siligut Feb 2014 #21
respectfully, defacto7 Feb 2014 #48
no, the Chris Christie threads are entertaining. This, not at all- unless you're speaking bettyellen Feb 2014 #63
It's never entertaining defacto7 Feb 2014 #64
you seem confused that people come here for wisdom, LOL. point me towards it, LOL bettyellen Feb 2014 #65
This small line in the thread comes from post #16 defacto7 Feb 2014 #67
I saw, but look at GD... seriously. Not a lot more wisdom out there either, just current events and bettyellen Feb 2014 #68
I so agree... defacto7 Feb 2014 #69
Respect would imply that you had actually read and processed my post siligut Feb 2014 #77
It's more than media gossip, it's an orchestrated campaign, IMO. El_Johns Feb 2014 #121
Thanks for the link to this article NBachers Feb 2014 #26
Thanks for this thread, and other important facts from the article - quinnox Feb 2014 #40
+ 1 red dog 1 Feb 2014 #57
Quinnox, on No. 6 you got something wrong. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #66
Fine, but that isn't my list quinnox Feb 2014 #70
OK, then the author was wrong about time requirements for common-law. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #86
NY doesn't have common-law marriage. tammywammy Feb 2014 #106
Texas isn't the state at issue here B2G Feb 2014 #105
It was right, but they threw in irrelevant discussion of common law marriage. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #112
I think the whole Farrow-Allen clan are a bit off-kilter. El_Johns Feb 2014 #41
gosh. it looks like I stepped into a time warp. is this a news report from the 90's?? 2banon Feb 2014 #46
That's one point of view, by a member of the Woody fan club. pnwmom Feb 2014 #47
And the Vanity Fair article written by a friend of Farrow's is another, from the Farrow fan club. El_Johns Feb 2014 #122
Yeah, the guy marries his daughter and we're going to debate whether he's a creep or not me b zola Feb 2014 #49
Definitely was not his daughter. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #55
But he didn't. defacto7 Feb 2014 #56
because he conspired to betray his LT partner with her own teen daughter. it's a good enough reason bettyellen Feb 2014 #60
Yeah... it seems questionable defacto7 Feb 2014 #62
It's Mia's fault for encouraging them to hang out! I mean, of course he'd want nude pics eventually. bettyellen Feb 2014 #61
+1 Coexist Feb 2014 #113
AND he made a movie -- Manhattan -- about his "affair" with a high school girl. Arugula Latte Feb 2014 #103
She wasn't his daughter. closeupready Feb 2014 #108
Thanks, WeekendWarrior, for posting this. red dog 1 Feb 2014 #59
I don't mean to go off topic but I'm curious OwnedByCats Feb 2014 #71
you're not alone Voice for Peace Feb 2014 #72
He mostly just looks like mia to me Doctor_J Feb 2014 #83
He looks like Mia as well OwnedByCats Feb 2014 #85
Yep OwnedByCats Feb 2014 #84
The young man has Frank's mouth. Not to mention the eyes. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2014 #91
Moses Farrow is also a family therapist, licensed and practicing in CT. So I have a feeling that msanthrope Feb 2014 #73
The entire world has had reason to distrust Mia Farrow for many decades. Artists warned us. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #75
You denounce the Catholic priests BainsBane Feb 2014 #89
Offering my opinion about Mia and Andre, not about Allen. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #125
I suggest you think about the implications of what you are doing BainsBane Feb 2014 #126
So you are not aware that the priests have lots of female victims? How can you not know this? Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #129
I did not make an attack BainsBane Feb 2014 #130
yeah, you did. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #134
Well, I was about to apologize BainsBane Feb 2014 #138
How creepy that Dory Previn had a song called "My Daddy in the Attic"! Bonobo Feb 2014 #92
How many marriages did Andre Previn have- five or six? All Mia's fault, obviously.... bettyellen Feb 2014 #116
Andre and Mia are the parents of 6 children. They claim to be adults, both of them. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #127
I keep reading here SHE broke his marriage. A married person is responsible for their own shit. bettyellen Feb 2014 #128
I don't know what you 'keep reading here' but it was not me you were reading so don't barf it Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #131
It was primarily an attack on Mia. And the warning about young girls, LOL.. It seems everyone Mia bettyellen Feb 2014 #137
It seems to me that Weekend Warrior is the one freaked out about... Walk away Feb 2014 #76
Yes, here and on the other thread - the denial is very telling. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #78
Very Creepy! nt Walk away Feb 2014 #79
Disagreeing with you and Mia Farrow is not denial Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #80
You obviously have something to hide! TheSarcastinator Feb 2014 #135
shame on you for such a slimy response TheSarcastinator Feb 2014 #136
And again, let's all remember: all this outcry and villification are happening simply because a Squinch Feb 2014 #82
There are people freaking out about Woody Allen? treestar Feb 2014 #87
God forbid anyone believe a woman about her own sexual abuse BainsBane Feb 2014 #90
God forbid anyone do any research on the subject before they spout WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #94
Is it 1992 or 2014? BainsBane Feb 2014 #139
We have the brother Moses's clear statement as well WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #140
^^this^^ Puzzledtraveller Feb 2014 #110
Woody Allen does not need to be a pederast Jenoch Feb 2014 #93
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #97
Ronan would be their own biological son tammywammy Feb 2014 #98
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #101
It might not have been a lie. tammywammy Feb 2014 #102
wow. I just read that whole and truly vile piece of dog shit cali Feb 2014 #99
I'm torn. no_hypocrisy Feb 2014 #104
As another poster so simply put it, Fuck Woody Allen! Puzzledtraveller Feb 2014 #107
By the way, Woody Allen has now responded to this, and said these accusations are untrue and quinnox Feb 2014 #111
If Woody Allen was a vocal right winger the call for his nutz would be unanimous here Puzzledtraveller Feb 2014 #114
Yeah, because this is a site for us to bash rightwingers LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #117
I only had time to read about half the article davidpdx Feb 2014 #115
People Magazine article (2/05): Moses' comments and Dylan's response to Moses. PoliticAverse Feb 2014 #123
I guess the soap opera is going on for a while. El_Johns Feb 2014 #124
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Feb 2014 #133
Those freaking out about Dylan pnwmom Feb 2014 #142
Allen wasn't there all day WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #144
There are 11 other siblings who support Dylan in this. Why is Moses the only one who matters? pnwmom Feb 2014 #146
I wouldn't know about the other kids except Ronan and Soon-Yi WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #149
You haven't read either of the long Vanity Fair articles, which included interviews pnwmom Feb 2014 #150
The Vanity Fair Article is a Puff Piece WeekendWarrior Feb 2014 #151
The Robert Weide article of January 27th on Woody Allen by the guy who did the pnwmom Feb 2014 #152
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