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19. I voted other because I don't need nor want to know the sordid details of this family's

Thu Feb 6, 2014, 12:34 PM

Feb 2014

dysfunctional life. To me, Woody's actions (or lack thereof) tell me that he is not a man of honor and has boundary issues.

I think that Dylan and Woody had a -weird-(that might be the understatement of the year) father/daughter relationship. To what degree and for how long is a moot point.

I am not sure that coming forward to the public with any of this is good for anyone, even though discussions are being generated I wonder if anyone is learning anything. Questioning their own perceptions.

I feel sorry for Dylan and wish her peace of mind. I hope she can find happiness. I do think her "story" has a ring of truth to it.

As for Allen's talents ... I am separating the man from his work but, I bet it colors how I view his films from now on ... IF I decide to view them.

I was looking forward to seeing Blue Jasmine ... now ...

not.so.much.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] BainsBane Feb 2014 OP

This poll/thread could be classic, or a bomb snooper2 Feb 2014 #1

I really don't care. TreasonousBastard Feb 2014 #2

Not enough info is available to know (nt) LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #3

I believe Dylan(children do NOT lie about this)but is this really appropriate as a POLL question? Ken Burch Feb 2014 #4

It's been the subject of countless threads this week BainsBane Feb 2014 #5

Unfortunately, yes TM99 Feb 2014 #6

Yes the "satanic abuse panic" of the 80s is a great example of the problems that can arise anneboleyn Feb 2014 #123

Exactly. TM99 Feb 2014 #133

actually you did declare allen innocent and vindicated. and secondly..... seabeyond Feb 2014 #139

What on earth are you reading? polly7 Feb 2014 #142

what am i reading? other posts of his also. lower in the thread. but jump seabeyond Feb 2014 #143

Oh .... sorry, I didn't realize this thread wasn't meant to include everyone. polly7 Feb 2014 #144

and, i said that where? really? bah hahahaha seabeyond Feb 2014 #148

You said I just 'jumped right in'. polly7 Feb 2014 #151

yes. you did. jump right in. ... that is as far as i am going. polly.... seabeyond Feb 2014 #154

I sure did. I pay to be a member and post here just like you. nt. polly7 Feb 2014 #155

ya, ok, so??? lol seabeyond Feb 2014 #159

She surely missed you a lot sea - lol. n/t seaglass Feb 2014 #170

Wow. Speak for yourself. polly7 Feb 2014 #171

I think it's funny. n/t seaglass Feb 2014 #172

I actualy find deliberate twisting of others' words fairly disgusting, polly7 Feb 2014 #173

I do too polly, avoid it at all costs. As far as your other comments, are you stating that sea seaglass Feb 2014 #183

If you avoid it at all costs, polly7 Feb 2014 #187

What I think is funny (when not annoying) is your constant obvious and selective attacks. seaglass Feb 2014 #189

Attacks! polly7 Feb 2014 #192

I'm not a victim nor claiming to be one - talk about twisting words...lol. n/t seaglass Feb 2014 #193

What does any of that have to do with Woody Allen or Dylan Farrow? BainsBane Feb 2014 #232

I was answering posts addressed to me, do you have a problem with that too? polly7 Feb 2014 #234

That's quite an accusation. Where did she call someone a pedophile apologist? BainsBane Feb 2014 #231

Quite an accurate accusation!! polly7 Feb 2014 #235

Twisting words BainsBane Feb 2014 #238

Oh, I don't worry about your life ......... believe me. polly7 Feb 2014 #239

Cool BainsBane Feb 2014 #240

Just answering your smarmy accusations. polly7 Feb 2014 #242

No, it didn't BainsBane Feb 2014 #245

I'm going through some pretty great things at the moment, thanks. polly7 Feb 2014 #246

lol. i know. to be so loved. there are a handful. i got the welcome yesterday in a subthread seabeyond Feb 2014 #191

Would 10 years old be considered a "younger woman"? That's when Woody first met Soon-Yi, R B Garr Feb 2014 #200

he said she was in the background and he noticed and wanted her to feel special. (not exact quote) . seabeyond Feb 2014 #201

Yes, it's not as simple as a man being attracted to a "younger woman" R B Garr Feb 2014 #202

here is the thread, that has link to judge. very interesting. seabeyond Feb 2014 #211

There is a lot of muddied information TM99 Feb 2014 #233

except that's not the basis for it treestar Feb 2014 #251

From what is reported TM99 Feb 2014 #253

It's not like your average rich man being attracted to a 19 year old treestar Feb 2014 #256

I have a relative who is a Wee Care kid... msanthrope Feb 2014 #174

actually many have lied about this. bowens43 Feb 2014 #177

I voted that it's likely gollygee Feb 2014 #7

The other question - if the allegations are true what should fans of Woody Allen do about it? nt el_bryanto Feb 2014 #8

That, I believe, is a separate question BainsBane Feb 2014 #9

It is a separate question but I think it's key. el_bryanto Feb 2014 #10

I had to break down and see "Midnight in Paris" and I admit I loved it. CTyankee Feb 2014 #12

This will never be proven. SolutionisSolidarity Feb 2014 #104

Any charge against a man? That's interesting terminology. nt el_bryanto Feb 2014 #116

The argument has been that false accusations are so rare that we should assume all accusations true. SolutionisSolidarity Feb 2014 #216

I'm not sure how useful a polygraph is in such cases BainsBane Feb 2014 #185

When you display the names of the voters Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #11

. pintobean Feb 2014 #13

All but one has been entirely predicatable throughout this story BainsBane Feb 2014 #14

after reading this for a couple days, it seems what i hear, is the people that excuse allen seabeyond Feb 2014 #15

I've been surprised by the number of men here who have disclosed experiences BainsBane Feb 2014 #16

agree with what you say.... absolutely. and i think some feel they are entitled, a mans right seabeyond Feb 2014 #17

I think some are also truly unaware that their Squinch Feb 2014 #65

Where do you think that comes from? BainsBane Feb 2014 #68

To give THEM the benefit of the doubt, for SOME I am sure it comes from Squinch Feb 2014 #71

false accusation is rare, and pedophiles lying is always. hm... lets believe the pedophile. seabeyond Feb 2014 #96

Politely but bluntly TM99 Feb 2014 #20

i do not fully agree with you, and i do not disagree either.... seabeyond Feb 2014 #22

We all have instincts BainsBane Feb 2014 #23

Instincts are just not enough TM99 Feb 2014 #28

I was quite clear about how I see the role of instinct BainsBane Feb 2014 #29

What then are the precise and objective consequences of an instinct to avoid Woody's movies...? LanternWaste Feb 2014 #53

Both of you seem focused solely on the idea of a 'court case' TM99 Feb 2014 #106

"Both of you seem focused solely on the idea of a 'court case'" BainsBane Feb 2014 #110

Sadly, a predictable response. TM99 Feb 2014 #112

not really. at the least baines was a well thought out and well expressed post seabeyond Feb 2014 #117

There is no possibility of conversation TM99 Feb 2014 #119

"There is no possibility of conversation" BainsBane Feb 2014 #120

you are the one that has chosen to name call thru out your posts. you are the one that has seabeyond Feb 2014 #121

Heads up BainsBane Feb 2014 #126

Really? I've had some great conversations with BB and sea. Rex Feb 2014 #149

It is more challenging when one doesn't read my post BainsBane Feb 2014 #184

Yeah that has to be hard, to discuss something Rex Feb 2014 #222

Did you see this? BainsBane Feb 2014 #223

Thank you for your brilliant, well-thought out posts on this matter. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #175

Somatic psychotherapy BainsBane Feb 2014 #124

body, mind, spirit. seabeyond Feb 2014 #196

When I spoke with the dance therapist I mentioned BainsBane Feb 2014 #198

How about a line of reasoning where you indicate BainsBane Feb 2014 #118

and this would be the interesting of the net. i am so willing to discuss all kinds of aspects seabeyond Feb 2014 #122

"Emotional pablum" left a mark, did it not? nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #176

Actually the most startling part BainsBane Feb 2014 #182

Left quite a mark, then. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #186

No, but you want to think so BainsBane Feb 2014 #188

Bain..the fact that you've spent so much time on a poster who quite deftly msanthrope Feb 2014 #190

So what is the point for you? BainsBane Feb 2014 #194

Is that the way ignore works? pintobean Feb 2014 #195

You're really going to talk about what peple do when someone has them on ignore? BainsBane Feb 2014 #204

check out the thread, roguevalley, what the judge said way back when. not looking good for woody. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #207

here is the link. thinking therapist should unignore us so he can gather more info.... seabeyond Feb 2014 #209

Your replies frequently pintobean Feb 2014 #212

I suggest you worry about what you write BainsBane Feb 2014 #213

Your suggestions are welcome pintobean Feb 2014 #215

Classy as always BainsBane Feb 2014 #230

i asked a question, and baines thoroughly provided information for me. why would you turn it into seabeyond Feb 2014 #197

Yeah, I don't see how he handed my ass to me BainsBane Feb 2014 #208

since he addressed nothing you talked about, but called you arrogant and stupid, lol seabeyond Feb 2014 #210

point by point excellent post baines that would be an interesting conversation yet was shrugged, seabeyond Feb 2014 #114

you just said there are no tells, but people- "miss the more subtle signs". A complete contradiction bettyellen Feb 2014 #30

Does that mean that you are the moral arbiter of what is the right way to think sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #134

No, it means I answered his question BainsBane Feb 2014 #135

So you really don't care about having a discussion, you just want to know how to pass judgment cui bono Feb 2014 #218

Right, that's it exactly BainsBane Feb 2014 #220

Brilliantly stated. cui bono Feb 2014 #219

Brilliance? BainsBane Feb 2014 #221

Absolutely! Oh, and accurate. cui bono Feb 2014 #225

the judge says allen was grossly inappropriate with dylan seabeyond Feb 2014 #226

You're confusing me with someone who is arguing the merits of Dylan's accusations. cui bono Feb 2014 #227

ah. and see. after posting i was thinking to self.... seabeyond Feb 2014 #228

"Captain Obvious" = Best username ever. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #237

Based on the understanding that most accusations of abuse have some merit ... 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #18

I voted other because I don't need nor want to know the sordid details of this family's Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #19

i think the trigger in all this was teh public honoring. how much bile would you have to swallow... seabeyond Feb 2014 #24

I agree with that. Would -I- have made a public statement? -I- don't know ... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #25

I have no idea but I have to say he gives me the creeps. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #21

Dylan is unquestionably the victim of abuse. baldguy Feb 2014 #26

"Certainly by Mia" BainsBane Feb 2014 #27

"instinct" pintobean Feb 2014 #31

And the jury results are in... aikoaiko Feb 2014 #32

Haha. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #34

Oh my pintobean Feb 2014 #39

I think alerters need own their alerts. That might cut down on some of this crap. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #46

Your sensity to the topic is duly noted BainsBane Feb 2014 #33

The thread topic is not the source of amusement. pintobean Feb 2014 #37

Your posts speak for themselves BainsBane Feb 2014 #40

How do you know what he decided is most important? polly7 Feb 2014 #41

She's hiding behind the subject. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #43

Exactly! nt. polly7 Feb 2014 #45

Imagine thinking the point of a discussion board BainsBane Feb 2014 #78

The thing is, you don't appreciate discussion that you don't agree with. polly7 Feb 2014 #87

A very common tactic by some. nt oldhippie Feb 2014 #49

As is the passive aggressive tendency to refer to specific people as "some" LanternWaste Feb 2014 #54

Which is used as a tactic to avoid ..... oldhippie Feb 2014 #56

That tactic is common on DU pintobean Feb 2014 #58

At least you're honest about your "gotcha" tactics. R B Garr Feb 2014 #72

Once again, you show your amazing comprehension skills. pintobean Feb 2014 #74

Ironic, considering BainsBane Feb 2014 #77

Exactly! R B Garr Feb 2014 #88

Well, there are a few others he focuses on BainsBane Feb 2014 #91

Please don't use me pintobean Feb 2014 #93

I can do better than that BainsBane Feb 2014 #99

Not a problem pintobean Feb 2014 #100

Pot-kettle BainsBane Feb 2014 #103

I entered the thread to vote in your poll. pintobean Feb 2014 #89

Oh, the irony! opiate69 Feb 2014 #66

Going for another? BainsBane Feb 2014 #76

Another what? Is that some kind of a threat? opiate69 Feb 2014 #90

It was a question BainsBane Feb 2014 #92

Criticism? BainsBane Feb 2014 #75

People don't even know you, polly7 Feb 2014 #85

People reveal their concerns and priorities through what they post BainsBane Feb 2014 #79

Well that was deep. polly7 Feb 2014 #86

Thanks Polly. Well said. n/t sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #136

Your posts speak for themselves, as well. pintobean Feb 2014 #42

Make whatever excuse you like BainsBane Feb 2014 #44

You know nothing about me or my life. pintobean Feb 2014 #51

"Everybody knows what you're trying to do." Who is "everybody"? R B Garr Feb 2014 #69

Well, you just proved me wrong. pintobean Feb 2014 #70

As for subject matter BainsBane Feb 2014 #47

the "professional" who directly contradicted themselves- saying there were subtle signs but no tells bettyellen Feb 2014 #55

Moreover, liscenced therapists are mandated reporters BainsBane Feb 2014 #60

yeah, that was no professional opinion, LOL. Ignoring your gut feelings is counter indicated- bettyellen Feb 2014 #62

I hear you BainsBane Feb 2014 #63

Now, now ...... polly7 Feb 2014 #166

What some people find inconceivable ..... oldhippie Feb 2014 #48

Yeah, it's a safe bet that will always be the case BainsBane Feb 2014 #50

You don't think that brainwashing your child to hate their other parent isn't abuse? baldguy Feb 2014 #80

Moses isn't the victim, Dylan is BainsBane Feb 2014 #81

I note that you didn't answer the question. baldguy Feb 2014 #82

I didn't answer the question because I don't believe it happened BainsBane Feb 2014 #83

So you think Moses is lying when he said him and his sister were abused by Mia. baldguy Feb 2014 #94

I know nothing but you know with certainty Mia abused Dylan BainsBane Feb 2014 #101

And you are deligitimizing the other child's own account of his experience sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #137

The victim BainsBane Feb 2014 #214

The judge found that it was Woody who responded in litigation by treestar Feb 2014 #252

And that has exactly bupkis to do with Mia's allegations of sexual abuse. baldguy Feb 2014 #254

The judge did not find that she did that treestar Feb 2014 #255

This whole Moses Farrow thing is ridiculous. ALL of the other children say the opposite Squinch Feb 2014 #95

No they don't. Most haven't said anything at all. And 6 of them were adopted after Farrow & El_Johns Feb 2014 #98

Keep telling yourself that BainsBane Feb 2014 #111

You must have an awfully low opinion of Soon-Yi. Bonobo Feb 2014 #113

None of which has anything to do with the point at issue. El_Johns Feb 2014 #127

If brainwashing isn't at issue BainsBane Feb 2014 #131

Try to follow the conversation, please. El_Johns Feb 2014 #138

Oh, so you were responding to my post BainsBane Feb 2014 #140

I see you are incapable. El_Johns Feb 2014 #141

What you are doing is insisting the conversation be directed toward one side issue BainsBane Feb 2014 #146

Actually, what I'm asking is that you follow the conversation rather than vomiting out El_Johns Feb 2014 #147

You mean not getting back to the key issue BainsBane Feb 2014 #206

So if brainwashing isn't at issue BainsBane Feb 2014 #129

But it was in People Magazine! BainsBane Feb 2014 #105

Moses is a family therapist himself. kskiska Feb 2014 #199

Other. Iggo Feb 2014 #35

That is an option. BainsBane Feb 2014 #36

No, Number 3 is "I have no idea." Iggo Feb 2014 #38

This is tasteless. Marr Feb 2014 #52

I have no idea and furthermore.. sendero Feb 2014 #57

what i do know - woody is a perv to start up romance with teen adopted daughter Liberal_in_LA Feb 2014 #59

but it wasn't his adopted daughter. kwassa Feb 2014 #107

BLECH!!!! countryjake Feb 2014 #61

Here, lie down for a bit. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #73

I see nasty, sexist smears about pearl-clutching, emotional women... countryjake Feb 2014 #165

I believe Dylan Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #64

This is not a court of law and I did not base my vote on "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard Gothmog Feb 2014 #67

Other: I just don't effing care. Never liked pnwest Feb 2014 #84

Not responding to poll and this thread is going in the trash where it belongs. Skidmore Feb 2014 #97

There is the notion that even firsthand eyewitnesses closeupready Feb 2014 #102

I think you summed it up pretty accurately. sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #109

Does anyone know how old Soon-Yi was when he took those nude pictures R B Garr Feb 2014 #108

someone is bound to have a link ... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #164

I don't think Mia Farrow would have hesitated to mention if they were underage photos. tammywammy Feb 2014 #203

Thanks for the links! That's a great observation about Mia, as well. R B Garr Feb 2014 #224

Soon Yi was 19 when they found the photos, I think BainsBane Feb 2014 #205

OTHER: None of my (or anyone's) business. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #115

If true, you do realize it's a felony BainsBane Feb 2014 #125

You do realize it's none of my business? ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #128

I disagree BainsBane Feb 2014 #130

I will hope, for you, that your family hasn't been or never is thrust into the court of the ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #132

So how is the list comparison going? Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #145

i would say 3 out of 4 that have an opinion think allen is a pedophile. seabeyond Feb 2014 #150

Incorrect and unwarranted assumption HERVEPA Feb 2014 #152

74/25. 3 in 4. i excluded those who dont know. seabeyond Feb 2014 #156

Repeating your statement does not address my point HERVEPA Feb 2014 #158

he asked what the poll was saying, not all of life. i spoke about the poll, not all of life. seabeyond Feb 2014 #160

I was not addressing all of life. HERVEPA Feb 2014 #167

That's not what he asked. pintobean Feb 2014 #169

if you have an opinion you are welcome to share it. it is Only an Opinion after all Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #162

You blew off 60% of respondents pintobean Feb 2014 #153

74/25. 3 in 4. i excluded those who dont know. seabeyond Feb 2014 #157

None of us know. pintobean Feb 2014 #161

Opinions was the question. Fact is a lot of people have an opinion. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #178

See the post that I replied to. pintobean Feb 2014 #180

Perfectly valid way to interpret polls Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #163

Other. I don't have a clue, I wasn't there. Autumn Feb 2014 #168

A poll? nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #179

NOBODY has any idea, except the two people involved Scootaloo Feb 2014 #181

Getting a black list together? cui bono Feb 2014 #217

You going to read the judge's ruling? BainsBane Feb 2014 #229

No, I know that there's no point in discussing this with you as that's not what you want. cui bono Feb 2014 #247

I don't want you to discuss it with me. BainsBane Feb 2014 #248

Save your condescendingn attitude. cui bono Feb 2014 #249

Other: thank Elad for auto-trash by keyword. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #236

It is not strictly ethical to change the title of your thread after so many participated. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #241

I won't be doing that BainsBane Feb 2014 #243

Then I would delete it or have it locked. Manipulating the title or contents might lead others... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #244

No surprise. This says a lot pintobean Feb 2014 #250

Another day devoted to spreading cheer BainsBane Feb 2014 #257

This thread won't die so I'm killing it BainsBane Feb 2014 #258