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TheKentuckian

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43. Being eligible for benefits and mandatory retirement aren't the same thing.

Thu Feb 6, 2014, 07:09 PM

Feb 2014

Nothing prevents you from working 30 years past your first date of eligibility, you can even get further incentives for continuing to contribute. Hell, I'm fine with a survivors payout should you keel over on the job and never collect that might give many a reason to keep going if they can.

It is all about putting together the right calculation that gives incentives that also generate positive revenue if taken advantage of while allowing folks ready to be or forced out can get full benefits so they can get by.

What are the options for folks? Where is the demand supposed to come from?

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Whoever advocates to lower SocSec to 50 will win the nomination in 2016, but... [View all] CK_John Feb 2014 OP

Kick for the jobless. CK_John Feb 2014 #1

We won't have a nominee then... former9thward Feb 2014 #2

By then it will be the self evident solution. I'm worried Mitt will advocate it. CK_John Feb 2014 #3

Still flogging this? It ain't gonna happen. Throd Feb 2014 #4

It has to happen. CK_John Feb 2014 #7

I've seen you state your case several times, but I still don't see any merit. Throd Feb 2014 #9

You have the POTUS begging corp to hire long term unemployed, you have million going homeless CK_John Feb 2014 #10

OK - that covers the why leftynyc Feb 2014 #40

Would probably have to lift the cap and madville Feb 2014 #5

Triple wouldn't do it. joeglow3 Feb 2014 #29

So people can become irrelevant in this society earlier? frazzled Feb 2014 #6

We have millions begging the senate to renew jobless benefits why not give them a respectable CK_John Feb 2014 #8

Simple solution...keep working if you please. TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #11

Not so easy: when you redefine "retirement age" down ... frazzled Feb 2014 #12

That is already the way it is because 50 year olds have experience, obligations, and time in TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #32

May I ask how old you are? frazzled Feb 2014 #33

You may ask. I don't think 60 is ancient or anything, it seems right around the corner. TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #42

Will be 74 next month. CK_John Feb 2014 #44

So what? What you're argument boils down to "fuck the people already down, Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #14

Not what I said, Thugmeister frazzled Feb 2014 #22

No one is going to advocate that. RB TexLa Feb 2014 #13

That is the most incredibly stupid thing I've ever read on DU. Coyotl Feb 2014 #15

Then you were not here to see the poo-savers. AngryAmish Feb 2014 #16

That's actually a good idea Coyotl Feb 2014 #18

"And everyone would save their poo for collection." name not needed Feb 2014 #20

LOL ... great gif! Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #35

I have cataract surgery Fri morning but your vision is a lot worse. CK_John Feb 2014 #17

I don't agree with your political prediction, but TOTALLY agree with LOWERING Social Security age Matariki Feb 2014 #19

Pass the idea along to your Congress critters and to your favorite talking head. Let know CK_John Feb 2014 #21

Here's a clue: NOBODY will advocate lowering retirement to 50... brooklynite Feb 2014 #23

Because Mitt might or another GOP candidate who knows it is needed and needs to happen. CK_John Feb 2014 #25

1) Mitt's not running...2) what shred of analysis tells you a Republican would advocate this? brooklynite Feb 2014 #28

They want to win. CK_John Feb 2014 #45

How do we pay for this idea? taught_me_patience Feb 2014 #24

The same way we pay for a dacade of war. Money happens when needed. CK_John Feb 2014 #26

So, borrow from china? joeglow3 Feb 2014 #30

I think the age should be lowered, but not to 50 Renew Deal Feb 2014 #27

Don't let perfection get in the way of the possible. CK_John Feb 2014 #31

I'm actually more in line with between 58 and 62 but TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #34

I think 62 is doable ... again. Wasn't that the age originally ... ? Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #37

Yes, add a bunch of retiress because TPP will displace them from the workforce, right? X_Digger Feb 2014 #36

Boring... CK_John Feb 2014 #46

Yes, your continued flogging of this bullshit is boring. n/t X_Digger Feb 2014 #56

Maybe. Provided we require schools to stop offering math classes in the meantime. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #38

50 is too young. I take it you are still fairly young. SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #39

Being eligible for benefits and mandatory retirement aren't the same thing. TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #43

It would be choice, just it is now and you can also work while on SocSec. CK_John Feb 2014 #47

I predict that nobody will advocate that at all. MineralMan Feb 2014 #41

It will be the self event solution, I would like for us to get out ahead of it.. CK_John Feb 2014 #49

Actually, it's not self-evident at all. MineralMan Feb 2014 #50

If Sen Sanders is a real socialist, he should jump on this. But I fear he is just a gas bag. CK_John Feb 2014 #52

Is that what you fear? C'est pour rire. MineralMan Feb 2014 #53

That will never happen and personally I think 50 is too young. MoonRiver Feb 2014 #48

No, I think that is going in the wrong direction, sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #51

The wrong direction? Productivity is at all time high trending with unemployment. Ed Suspicious Feb 2014 #55

I know it's hopeless but: show me the math Proud Public Servant Feb 2014 #54

Don't expect a cogent answer. X_Digger Feb 2014 #57

How did we pay for over 10 yrs of war. At the national level money is a concept and will appear when CK_John Feb 2014 #60

So the candidate who says Proud Public Servant Feb 2014 #63

That's my opinion, The candidate who brings up reducing SS age to 50yr will win. CK_John Feb 2014 #64

What is the current SS retirement age? DURHAM D Feb 2014 #58

I took SS at 62., 65 for most but months have been aidded in the last couple yrs. CK_John Feb 2014 #61

After two days, you haven't convinced anyone, and nobody's convinced you... brooklynite Feb 2014 #59

I just had cataract surgery this morning and have a new outlook on this problem. CK_John Feb 2014 #62