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In reply to the discussion: Obama Makes Republican Heads Explode As He Shatters Their Lies At Prayer Breakfast [View all]delrem
(9,688 posts)58. The National Prayer Breakfasts are right-wing political events, Cha.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Prayer_Breakfast
"... The National Prayer Breakfast is hosted by members of the United States Congress and is organized on their behalf by The Fellowship Foundation, a conservative Christian organization more widely known as "The Family". Initially called the Presidential Prayer Breakfast, the name was changed in 1970 to the National Prayer Breakfast.
It is designed to be a forum for the political, social, and business elite to assemble and build relationships. Since the inception of the National Prayer Breakfast, several U.S. states and cities and other countries have established their own annual prayer breakfast events."
Being aware of this fact doesn't imply *anything* about Obama or any leader who happens to attend. After all, "Every U.S. president since Dwight D. Eisenhower has participated in the annual event." and it'd be totally wrong to say that all these presidents were the same. It's simply an annual event. Obama's speech was uplifting and hit good notes. It mightn't have painted a realistic picture of the USA, considering actual facts about how the USA has acted in the international arena over the past few decades (e.g. the US is a solid defender of the Saudi religious dictatorship, and they're simply awful in every way one can think of). But it did paint the the right picture of "if only it were so...".
Generally speaking "prayer breakfasts" (weekly, monthly,...) seem to be ubiquitous and promote an extreme religious right idea. I first heard of the things over 30 yrs ago when I found a brochure from one in a (very religious, Catholic) friend's car and read it as we traveled along. I was astounded! The event went under the name "full-gospel businessman's breakfast" and the featured sermon was by some dude who (paraphrasing from memory) explained how God informed his business decisions. In short, he explained how driving through the city one day he saw a for sale sign on a property and God spoke to him "buy that property", so he did, and almost overnight he made an enormous profit by flipping it. The upshot was: the fact that he made such an enormous profit was proof that he was blessed by God, that he was righteous - in contrast to the poor etc. who aren't recipients of God's abundance. Like I say, I was astounded! And that point of view is perpetuated to the present day by a certain kind of religious fundamentalist.
So all "Christians" aren't alike. Some have beliefs that run, in my opinion, in absolute and stark contrast and opposition to what *I* understand from my albeit shallow readings of the teachings of Christ. But I learned long ago not to bother trying to argue my case. I just say it and be done with it.
"... The National Prayer Breakfast is hosted by members of the United States Congress and is organized on their behalf by The Fellowship Foundation, a conservative Christian organization more widely known as "The Family". Initially called the Presidential Prayer Breakfast, the name was changed in 1970 to the National Prayer Breakfast.
It is designed to be a forum for the political, social, and business elite to assemble and build relationships. Since the inception of the National Prayer Breakfast, several U.S. states and cities and other countries have established their own annual prayer breakfast events."
Being aware of this fact doesn't imply *anything* about Obama or any leader who happens to attend. After all, "Every U.S. president since Dwight D. Eisenhower has participated in the annual event." and it'd be totally wrong to say that all these presidents were the same. It's simply an annual event. Obama's speech was uplifting and hit good notes. It mightn't have painted a realistic picture of the USA, considering actual facts about how the USA has acted in the international arena over the past few decades (e.g. the US is a solid defender of the Saudi religious dictatorship, and they're simply awful in every way one can think of). But it did paint the the right picture of "if only it were so...".
Generally speaking "prayer breakfasts" (weekly, monthly,...) seem to be ubiquitous and promote an extreme religious right idea. I first heard of the things over 30 yrs ago when I found a brochure from one in a (very religious, Catholic) friend's car and read it as we traveled along. I was astounded! The event went under the name "full-gospel businessman's breakfast" and the featured sermon was by some dude who (paraphrasing from memory) explained how God informed his business decisions. In short, he explained how driving through the city one day he saw a for sale sign on a property and God spoke to him "buy that property", so he did, and almost overnight he made an enormous profit by flipping it. The upshot was: the fact that he made such an enormous profit was proof that he was blessed by God, that he was righteous - in contrast to the poor etc. who aren't recipients of God's abundance. Like I say, I was astounded! And that point of view is perpetuated to the present day by a certain kind of religious fundamentalist.
So all "Christians" aren't alike. Some have beliefs that run, in my opinion, in absolute and stark contrast and opposition to what *I* understand from my albeit shallow readings of the teachings of Christ. But I learned long ago not to bother trying to argue my case. I just say it and be done with it.
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Obama Makes Republican Heads Explode As He Shatters Their Lies At Prayer Breakfast [View all]
babylonsister
Feb 2014
OP
I like to see it every so often... I know Libertarians who act that way... Cute, isn't it? n/t
freshwest
Feb 2014
#47
Goober's going to lose some tea bag cred by not getting in Obama's face and screaming argle-bargle.
tanyev
Feb 2014
#38
Yes, he sure is! I can hear it now... Obama mind-controlled him, can't be trusted anymore... n/t
freshwest
Feb 2014
#49
Yeah, no shit .. but at the same time, failure to attend The Family's only public event ...
brett_jv
Feb 2014
#25
I agree. It's too bad he feels he has to kowtow to this celebration of magical thinking.
Arugula Latte
Feb 2014
#78
The standard is The Beatitudes in the Bible. No one is perfect on them, but hands down the Democrats
libdem4life
Feb 2014
#20
"Well, the president once again put a stake in the heart of that one with his remarks today"
progressoid
Feb 2014
#33
Prayer Breakfast: Fusion of Church & State. Operated by "The Family," a shadowy right-wing religious
blkmusclmachine
Feb 2014
#59
He goes most years to praise this anti gay group of Religious Conservatives who organzie to harm
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2014
#76