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Trillo

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53. "Christ represents good" ? That's popular but not clear.

Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:50 PM

Feb 2014

For example, the idea that you are saved only by Christ, instead of one's own actions, seems a bit, umm, "evil". Then, the idea that once you accept Christ, you are forgiven for sins, allows you to keep sinning in confidence you are still saved. Hmm, not sure that's good, either.

So, like I said, it's not really clear to me that Christ is good.

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Could "The Anti-Christ" possibly be all those sociopaths in high positions in corporations & gov't? [View all] Cal33 Feb 2014 OP

I doubt a 1st century writer would predict 21st c. capitalism. nt Deep13 Feb 2014 #1

Is 21st century capitalism really that new? FiveGoodMen Feb 2014 #12

I agree with you. In the 7000 years of written history, all the nations of the world had been Cal33 Feb 2014 #20

False. You are projecting modernity backward in time... Deep13 Feb 2014 #22

Regardless of the form of economy at any particular time in history, the main point here is Cal33 Feb 2014 #25

No, modernity has modern (commercial values),... Deep13 Feb 2014 #37

No, capitalism started in the late Middle Ages... Deep13 Feb 2014 #21

"it is the deliberate concentration of capital into the hands of industrial elite" FiveGoodMen Feb 2014 #23

The particulars are extremely different. Deep13 Feb 2014 #36

I think you are correct that capitalism started in the late Middle Ages. Prior to that a simpler Cal33 Feb 2014 #39

No, that is the old understanding of "feudalism." Deep13 Feb 2014 #44

no. why even play into the stupid myth shit? cali Feb 2014 #2

Yep. Millions of people wondering if the predictions of a bunch of stopbush Feb 2014 #5

I AM so glad that Buddhism does not AsahinaKimi Feb 2014 #3

It's recasting the world into a heroic struggle in which you are the good guy el_bryanto Feb 2014 #4

I'm sure they had campfires in sub-Vedic India! MisterP Feb 2014 #14

Yep. They sure must have had. Cal33 Feb 2014 #34

There won't be any "Antichrist." Archae Feb 2014 #6

Well, sociopaths certainly do behave in an unChristian manner, even when they do Cal33 Feb 2014 #8

Good thing your definition of Christian is the only true one. n/t trotsky Feb 2014 #30

I think none of this should be taken literally, but symbolically. Christ represents good, so Cal33 Feb 2014 #16

"Christ represents good" ? That's popular but not clear. Trillo Feb 2014 #53

I remember a passage from St. Matthew, where Jesus said to one,"Go, and sin no more." I Cal33 Feb 2014 #64

There is no such thing as an antichrist. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #7

Only if you take the Bible literally, word for word. But if the word Anti-Christ is used as a Cal33 Feb 2014 #52

I think the bible is on par with Hansel and Gretel as far as I'm concerned. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #56

Many of us think in terms of "all or nothing", zero% or 100%. As far as human living is concerned, Cal33 Feb 2014 #57

There are no useful parts of the bible. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #60

The Bible has been written by numerous authors over many centuries. The language is often Cal33 Feb 2014 #62

The thing we were warned against in church xfundy Feb 2014 #9

Exactly, much of this crap today christians of today spew are those things I learned RKP5637 Feb 2014 #26

By and large I think what you've said is true. There are exceptions, though. Buddhism (as well Cal33 Feb 2014 #27

Yep, agree so much, I tend to use a broad brush. All good questions you pose. As a physics minor RKP5637 Feb 2014 #32

"Maybe the answer is absolutely nothing." Or the answer might be a world of a totally different Cal33 Feb 2014 #33

Thanks for the link! Very interesting! RKP5637 Feb 2014 #38

I tend to group all Republicans in the Anti- Christ category. nt octoberlib Feb 2014 #10

Well, I think that's going a little too far. It's the Republican leaders who are the heartless, Cal33 Feb 2014 #11

Well, as I recall from The Omen movies Downtown Hound Feb 2014 #13

I think that the "Fed" is the most dangerous entity. nt clarice Feb 2014 #15

Historically speaking, nations do rise and then fall. Before us, Britain was Number One. Before Cal33 Feb 2014 #35

I would like to think so.nt clarice Feb 2014 #46

Me, too. But with the ever growing numbers of sociopaths in powerful positions, both in private Cal33 Feb 2014 #47

Correct...that's why I always thought clarice Feb 2014 #48

If we last long enough as a nation, we might. Cal33 Feb 2014 #49

I always try to stay optimistic. nt clarice Feb 2014 #58

Wayne LaPierre is the anti-Christ BainsBane Feb 2014 #17

You're wrong... Archae Feb 2014 #18

If he rises from the dead BainsBane Feb 2014 #19

Weren't the writers talking about an emperor when it came to the antichrist? sakabatou Feb 2014 #24

How many heads 2naSalit Feb 2014 #28

NO! It's all a lie to make people MONEY DiverDave Feb 2014 #29

It looks like you are saying the same thing as I am. Only, you are using different words. :) Cal33 Feb 2014 #31

The AntiChrist is Corporatism demwing Feb 2014 #40

Yes, corporatism and its evil cohorts trying to subjugate the entire world and make it their slave Cal33 Feb 2014 #42

Pssst. There is no antichrist. Iggo Feb 2014 #41

Yep. Those of us who are right-wingers. Cal33 Feb 2014 #43

I meant humans, good and bad. Iggo Feb 2014 #45

I think even Satan bailed on these one percent, free market, rigged system sociopaths. kairos12 Feb 2014 #50

Scientific Materialism run amuck Berlum Feb 2014 #51

I think it more likely a shameless tactic to prevent challenge to church hierarchy and power. Trillo Feb 2014 #54

The Revelation of John of Patmos is about rebelling against Rome. The antichrist is Nero. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #55

Nero was the first Roman emperor to officially persecute the Christians. The nine emperors Cal33 Feb 2014 #59

Revelation is a symbolic political document. It does not predict the future. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #61

Yes, one can only guess at what the Revelation is saying. Nobody can know for sure what the Cal33 Feb 2014 #63

Do you think they care? (Please see quote and reply) Cal33 Feb 2014 #65