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merrily

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78. I don't think we part entirely.

Fri Feb 7, 2014, 05:56 AM

Feb 2014

He has responsibility. But I don't think it's his alone. There are so many national and international organizations, think tanks, etc. financial "experts" that have devoted well over a century, if not several centuries, to acquiring, influencing and directing power. And they will convince people of things like "What's good for General Motors is good for America." And my personal favorite, "liberals can't win" so it's the lesser evil to go Third Way than to let the greater evil win."

I am not giving you some kind of CIA Kennedy conspiracy theory here. Bilderberg Group, Carlyle, ALEC, Third Way. They all exist. The religio-political groups, too.

And, as you know, it's not so they can sit around in a tank and think all day. It's so they can direct people all around the country and the world like Obama.

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A Rash of Deaths and a Missing Reporter � With Ties to Wall Street Investigations [View all] phantom power Feb 2014 OP

Same link in another thread ---> Petrushka Feb 2014 #1

I wonder who has the reporter's notes? Th1onein Feb 2014 #2

K & R! N/T wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #3

I read about this, too Aerows Feb 2014 #4

Not sure what to make of that. Within that link there is reference to two articles, one from ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #5

I'm curious about that, also, Chisolm, but I have read other articles about the "suicides" loudsue Feb 2014 #8

Oh, there is definitely fire there, loudsue. You remember the financial crash of late 2008 ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #9

We used to call that a "paper fortune". Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #13

The shrub trillion, TARP, was the band-aid, the subsequent PBO bailout-backing Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #42

It will collapse the entire global economy but before it gets there TPTB will take pensions. nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #54

That collapse could likely eliminate the USD as a viable currency, and then what do they have? Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #55

Bitcoins are delicious... nikto Feb 2014 #58

TARP was split between Shrub and Obama. merrily Feb 2014 #69

You're absolutely correct, but here it is easier to just lay the whole thing off on shrub Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #75

Facts are facts. merrily Feb 2014 #76

We part right there, my friend. The President is to blame. He had the authority and the choice to Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #77

I don't think we part entirely. merrily Feb 2014 #78

The difference is that none of them, not one, has any power to force the President Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #79

Sorry, I got distracted by another thread, but i am back. merrily Feb 2014 #80

The 780,000,000 was drop in the bucket compared with the trillions from the Fed. merrily Feb 2014 #68

Yes, quantitative easing. And you're right, it was relatively quietly done - unless you ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #82

What's funny is "banksters" to us are defined as "corrupt rich bastards".... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #12

It said that the Obama administration failed to pursue the banksters. merrily Feb 2014 #70

Obama has been trying to bring back the Utopia that was The Clinton Years.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #71

Don't remember, but Obama fared well with that, too. merrily Feb 2014 #72

NOBODY does. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #73

And that's one of the many beauties of soft money, isn't it? merrily Feb 2014 #74

I bet McCain would trade Edwards,...the way John was checking out Sarah's ass. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #86

Yes "Banksters" was used in the page listing the contents of the lawsuit. LiberalArkie Feb 2014 #20

Well damn... there it is. That is very curious to me. What do you suppose is going on there? ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #25

The day after that appeared on CNBC, the CNBC exec's children were murdered. Then CNBC killed LiberalArkie Feb 2014 #26

Whaaaaa? Is that true?! pnwest Feb 2014 #29

Yes , it appears so. The children were murdered on Oct 25, 2012 around 5:30PM by their nanny. LiberalArkie Feb 2014 #30

$43 trillion... isn't that about the exact amount of shady derivatives rumored to be out there riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #33

Wowwwww. Bookmarking for in depth reading later. Thx! pnwest Feb 2014 #48

This is all "news" to me. How were the children murdered? And do I understand this right.. 2banon Feb 2014 #45

Here is the wiki LiberalArkie Feb 2014 #47

How on earth did a Psychopath manage to get hired by people of their means? 2banon Feb 2014 #85

I have the cached web page as html if anyone wants me to email it to them. LiberalArkie Feb 2014 #31

Thats so conspiracy theory.......and its not even close to the truth Historic NY Feb 2014 #51

I remember reading about that in the NY dailies at the time. I think the Daily News. Squinch Feb 2014 #52

Whoa... something brewing. Eek. K&R nt riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #6

Yeap. Also, HSBC tried to limit the withdrawals their customers can take, but reversed themselves Squinch Feb 2014 #53

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #7

The Principate or the Dominate Roman Empire? happyslug Feb 2014 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author TheMathieu Feb 2014 #40

I called it last Saturday Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #10

Our financial advisor last week told us to Holly_Hobby Feb 2014 #11

What happens when the pensions are raided? LiberalArkie Feb 2014 #50

Since my husband already collects his pension, he meant he would lose it Holly_Hobby Feb 2014 #56

I looked around and the sites said that the Pension Guaranty will continue to pay up LiberalArkie Feb 2014 #57

No offense, but financial advisors have been saying that consistently for 10 years OmahaBlueDog Feb 2014 #64

I don't know how long he had that opinion about 2008, Holly_Hobby Feb 2014 #81

At this point, if there is another systemic failure a la 2008, there are two realistic options OmahaBlueDog Feb 2014 #84

Just to add to the story - I'd swear that I read an article a few hedgehog Feb 2014 #14

re: "all three of the financial firms the executives worked for are under investigation" thesquanderer Feb 2014 #15

I remember a time when thsi would be a scandal and would be all over the new the entire ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #16

I think that after what happened to the CNBC guy, no news media will touch the subject. LiberalArkie Feb 2014 #24

Yeah, we need to watch this one. Definitely need to keep tabs on this. calimary Feb 2014 #17

The plot thickens arikara Feb 2014 #18

Been following this story... SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #19

You make a valid point. JNelson6563 Feb 2014 #21

Yeah, no pension, no investments, SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #23

I and many others right here with you. JNelson6563 Feb 2014 #27

Sounds like shit's about to get real. JNelson6563 Feb 2014 #22

Looks like the market is ready for a "correction" (code for the 1% get to rip off the poor saps rhett o rick Feb 2014 #28

I'd argue that capitalism is the biggest TBF Feb 2014 #43

I agree with you. I would love to see someone's prediction of the final stages as rhett o rick Feb 2014 #44

Oil. Octafish Feb 2014 #32

But somehow, oil companies really need all those tax breaks and gov't subsidies they get nikto Feb 2014 #59

Sounds like a cover up. Rex Feb 2014 #34

K&r. (nt) Kurovski Feb 2014 #35

Why has no MSM covered this? mfcorey1 Feb 2014 #36

knr cui bono Feb 2014 #37

K & R AzDar Feb 2014 #38

Not a conspiracy theorist. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #41

really scary stuff! wow. Whisp Feb 2014 #46

Holy Shyte. nt SunSeeker Feb 2014 #49

The Kill List must be pretty long... blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #60

Does Obama's announcement re forgiveness of nationwide college debt have connection with this? ancianita Feb 2014 #61

It is unbelievable how many recs this non-story has mathematic Feb 2014 #62

Very ineresting. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #63

kick! Whisp Feb 2014 #65

People die all the time. OnyxCollie Feb 2014 #66

I'm sure there's nothing to see here. Dimon's a prince. merrily Feb 2014 #67

Kick n/t Dalai_1 Feb 2014 #83