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merrily

(45,251 posts)
65. Not the link that I asked you for, but thanks for verifying
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 09:34 AM
Feb 2014

something else that I posted upthread to you, namely that lawyer jokes were very prevalent at the time that Leno told the one I posted about.


Now, think about it. If Jay Leno had actually cracked his most tasteless, worst-timed ever, lawyer joke, on the day of the mass shooting, don't you think the writer of this article might have mentioned it?


No, YOU think about it. My link AND yours prove that every material thing that I said about event from memory TWENTY ONE years later was true. California. Law firm. Lawyers and support staff. Gunman. Lawyer jokes prevalent at the time. LENO. monologue. Not just that he made a joke, but that he made it during his monologue.


It would be very odd if the one and only thing that I got wrong in all that was the shock from Leno that caused the shooting to embed in my memory in the first instance.

Of all the comedians in California who were telling lawyer jokes, why, the day after the shooting, do two reporters go to LENO, the guy I mentioned, and no other comedian?

If you truly think my memory or integrity is bad, that should have stricken you as some coincidence--that Leno was the comedian and the only comedian reporters wanted to interview about lawyer jokes the day after the shooting, no?

Why did the reporters not mention the wording of the joke in the story? LA Times. LA shooting of lawyers. Story about lawyers pleading for an end to lawyer jokes because their lives are in danger. Also the survivors are in LA. They don't to read it. Maybe the reporters never actually heard the joke

Why not mention specifically that Leno told a tasteless joke that same night?


For one thing, for all the reasons mentioned above, it's pretty much implied to anyone who is awake.

Beyond that, there could be a hundred explanations.

One very possible scenario. The head of the LA bar mentioned in the story had told the reporters about the Leno joke and they called Leno for an interview. Not mentioning the fact he told a bad joke on the very night of the killings may have been his condition for being interviewed at all about the subject of lawyer jokes. Very like Leno, IMO, not to want to take heat for something he did. He never took any responsibility about Conan O'Brien.

Finally, look at his callous, defensive response, and his incredibly tone deaf continued bashing of lawyers the day after the shooting:







Comedian Jay Leno, who spices his "Tonight Show" monologues with lawyer jokes, had some advice for Saferstein and other lawyers in an interview Wednesday: "Not being an attorney, I will have to consult with my attorney, but I was under the impression that one did have the right to free speech."



Jokes do not change people's minds, Leno said. They only reinforce beliefs. "I don't see attorneys coming to the defense of Al Gore, Dan Quayle and Zsa Zsa Gabor," Leno said. "Are they serious? C'mon man, lighten up."


As you yourself noted, the belief in most of those lawyer jokes at the time was that the death of several lawyers was "a good start," or some form of "lawyers deserve to die." As a comedian, Leno would know very well what the jokes of the time were about. And he's saying that jokes "only" reinforce that belief--so he should keep telling them? The day after the shootings! Christ!

LA reporters, asking seriously about lawyer jokes the day after a mass LA shooting in a law firm? " "C'mon man, lighten up!" Yeah, because Leno is the victim.

I rest my case. Thanks for proving I was dead right, no pun intended.

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Is he gonna STAY GONE this time??? blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #1
I think he probably will this time LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #3
I must admit Mira Feb 2014 #5
Before the haters get here LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #2
Video links below Tx4obama Feb 2014 #4
What a great piece of work, Mira Feb 2014 #6
Two more VIDEO links from the show Tx4obama Feb 2014 #21
"I'm proud to say this was a union show." - Jay Leno tonight. nt Lex Feb 2014 #7
Entertainers are liberal in nature DemocraticWing Feb 2014 #8
I stopped watching Leno when he pissed me off during the Bush years Mira Feb 2014 #11
I watched Leno and Conan pretty religiously. joshcryer Feb 2014 #35
Didn't Leno support Bush? 1000words Feb 2014 #9
Leno on Bush: Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #19
loved the post! Sunlei Feb 2014 #64
Bush was the greatest thing to happen to Leno. joshcryer Feb 2014 #34
Regarding Jay's politics, I remember when Jay was accused of being a right winger. alp227 Feb 2014 #10
Leno is a pro-union fiscal conservative and social liberal. LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #12
his idea of conservative could mean santorum but not Bush JI7 Feb 2014 #14
Very true (nt) LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #16
Since he and his wife are deliberately childless, maybe not Santorum.... nt MADem Feb 2014 #28
More like Huntsman. joshcryer Feb 2014 #32
I found Leno's humor hackneyed and formulaic fujiyama Feb 2014 #13
+ 1000. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I share the same sentiments. nt adirondacker Feb 2014 #77
Jay Leno did his job and did it well. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #15
I liked Jay Leno. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #17
On air, Leno equated being a conservative with being a patriot, as if no one else is a patriot. merrily Feb 2014 #18
Jay Leno has never joked about things like mass murder. Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #20
Bullshit. I watched that night and I am not misrembering. merrily Feb 2014 #22
Of course he didn't say that. There would have been an enormous outcry. Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #23
Bullshit. He did. I heard it and you're speculating that a quick joke would have merrily Feb 2014 #25
I knew you wouldn't be able to find a link (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #41
I live in the Northeast. I have no other special reason to remember this story for 21 years, except merrily Feb 2014 #29
Again. No link. (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #42
LOL. I gave you one link. More than your post merited. Your turn. merrily Feb 2014 #43
A link that never once mentions Jay Leno. Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #45
More crap you made up that is not true. You have a link merrily Feb 2014 #50
STILL no link (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #53
You forgot. It was your turn to provide a link for merrily Feb 2014 #51
If the poster is right, the joke they heard would have been in 1993. morningfog Feb 2014 #46
Something so disgusting would have been mentioned many times subsequently. Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #48
Maybe, maybe not. morningfog Feb 2014 #49
Maybe it was mentioned many times. I have no idea. merrily Feb 2014 #52
Still no link (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #54
That's okay. You don't have to look anymore. merrily Feb 2014 #55
Yes, still no link from you and it's still your turn. merrily Feb 2014 #56
OK. Here's a link from a July 8, 1993 article that talks about the mass shooting and Jay Leno, Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #58
Not the link that I asked you for, but thanks for verifying merrily Feb 2014 #65
OK. So you're the only person on the internet to remember Leno cracking this horrible joke, Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #66
More dishonesty and, oh, look an emoticon, too. merrily Feb 2014 #67
Oh and BTW, your claim about Letterman's monologue "the night Carson died" was also false. Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #68
Thanks again for proving me right, buddy. merrily Feb 2014 #71
Have you already forgotten that you said "we're done for this thread, buddy"? Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #72
Nope. Didn't forget. But you did me such a huge favor, how could I possibly ignore it? merrily Feb 2014 #74
This video clip mocking Leno supports merrily's argument qwertyq Feb 2014 #69
Sure does. Thank you so much. But I hope you didn't hurt Nye merrily Feb 2014 #73
I guess Bevan has nothing to say about this. qwertyq Feb 2014 #76
I'm sure he'll be posting his apology to me and his kudos to you merrily Feb 2014 #79
I believe I saw it posted eleswhere here at DU qwertyq Feb 2014 #82
welcome to DU gopiscrap Feb 2014 #78
I don't find Jay particularly funny ohheckyeah Feb 2014 #24
Who? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #26
Letterman is much funnier. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #27
So are Kimmel, Fallon and Green. merrily Feb 2014 #30
Good riddance. He really stunk up the joint eShirl Feb 2014 #31
Nice OP. Just saw it. Not a big fan of Jay. Especially after Conan. joshcryer Feb 2014 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author davidpdx Feb 2014 #36
I like Leno madokie Feb 2014 #37
Fuck Jay Leno. Does anybody remember when he was funny? Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #38
Nobody gives a rats a$$ about HawkeyeLibkid Feb 2014 #39
I'm sorry, the dollar signs distracted/confused me. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #40
I must remember that one. merrily Feb 2014 #47
He still telling Monica Lewinski & Bill Clinton jokes? B Calm Feb 2014 #44
So it was unfunny? TransitJohn Feb 2014 #57
I still miss Johnny ... TBF Feb 2014 #59
Leno's show was like the Morning Joe of late night TV. Walk away Feb 2014 #60
+1 Instead of turning him off, I would switch to Letterman. B Calm Feb 2014 #63
Wow... a few people need to go back to bed or drink a little bit more coffee... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #61
Late night tv for me has not been the same PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #62
What most people don't know is that it was a robot Jay Leno who retired last night. RadiationTherapy Feb 2014 #70
Class act Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #75
He should have had Bill Clinton's dick on the show as a farewell guest Tom Ripley Feb 2014 #80
Kick n/t Dalai_1 Feb 2014 #81
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