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el_bryanto

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2. We are fractured, and that's a big part of it

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2014, 09:01 AM

Feb 2014

But the other issue is that we don't have a figure like the Koch Brothers who fund a very specific vision. Thus most of our candidates are in the thrall of big business; that's where the money to run comes from.

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No, Liberals Don't Control the Democratic Party [View all] xchrom Feb 2014 OP

Call it pragmatists versus purists. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #1

It's more a matter of social class than anything Fumesucker Feb 2014 #3

Then why help Joe Sixpack be protected from pre existing conditions? JoePhilly Feb 2014 #5

I never said anything about Democrats or Republicans Fumesucker Feb 2014 #10

Call it People-centric versus corporate-centric. Scuba Feb 2014 #4

The purist label goes to those who will decry compromise at all turns. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #7

So then Elizabeth Warren and her supporters are NOT purists, as we are willing to compromise. Scuba Feb 2014 #8

They are not ... but many of their loudest supporters are. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #11

I disagree with the "very little" conclusion. Just in appointing regulators ... Scuba Feb 2014 #14

The article mentions "liberals versus centrists, populists versus the corporate wing." Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #20

The article says "Call it what you will" ... so I did. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #22

So much is said in choice of terminlogy. n/t Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #28

I don't decry compromise, nor does hardly any other Liberal tkmorris Feb 2014 #16

that would be inaccurate. Warren isn't a purist, neither is Sanders or de Blasio cali Feb 2014 #9

They are not ... many of their loudest supporters are. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #12

Of course they'd have to make deals. cali Feb 2014 #18

N.Y. Mayor At Closed AIPAC Gala: Part Of My Job Is To Defend Israel ProSense Feb 2014 #21

Such a black/white, up/down Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #13

I used the same binary structure that the OP refers to from the article ... JoePhilly Feb 2014 #15

Meaningless jargon. Folks tossed around 'I'm a pragmatist' to dress up their opposition to equality Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #17

Ahh ... your preferred stick. Or should I say Schtick. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #37

I prefer prostitutes vs true believers. It's so much easier to be a pragmatist when your so-called jtuck004 Feb 2014 #24

Is this why Americans get war spending & wars while the REST of the industrialized world think Feb 2014 #27

Pragmatic means doing what works for your interests. Looks like a big Fail for "centrism" Armstead Feb 2014 #29

Corporations vs the people AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #36

We are fractured, and that's a big part of it el_bryanto Feb 2014 #2

It's like the plot from Iron Man 3 Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #6

the most important point is made in Paragraph 16 Enrique Feb 2014 #19

Damn, where does that leave... freebrew Feb 2014 #23

Money does. Octafish Feb 2014 #25

Good piece but, quite frankly, I'm tired of the argument wyldwolf Feb 2014 #26

In my lifetime (60 or so years)... OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #30

August, 1968. That's when the Party leaders made it clear they would rather lose Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #31

To wit... OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #32

I'm a huge fan of Warren, de Blasio and Bernie Sanders. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #33

cuase the 'blogger class' has SO MUCH POWER!11 xchrom Feb 2014 #34

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men... Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #35