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9. that would be inaccurate. Warren isn't a purist, neither is Sanders or de Blasio
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 09:24 AM
Feb 2014

or any other Progressive I can think of in significant political office. Pasting that label on progressives is disingenuous and it's what corporate supporting dems do in an attempt to smear.

Btw, Vermont works pretty well and the legislature is filled with unabashed progressives like this guy:

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Zuckerman ran for the Vermont House in 1994 while still enrolled in college, losing by 59 votes. He ran again two years later and become the fourth Progressive Party member to serve in the Vermont State House, a seat that he held through 2010.[1]

Prior to serving in the House, he served on the Burlington Electric Commission. While in the House he served for 6 years on the Natural Resources and Energy Committee as well as 6 years on the Agriculture Committee, including 4 as the Chairperson. He finished his time in the House of Representatives by serving on the Ways and Means Committee. In 2005, Zuckerman considered running for the sole Vermont seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in the 2006 U.S. House election, that was being vacated by Independent Rep. (now Senator) Bernie Sanders, eventually deciding not to run in order to continue serving as Agriculture Chair in the Vermont House of Representatives.

Zuckerman ran for Vermont State Senate in 2012 and won as a Progressive/Democrat. [2][3]

In his time in the General Assembly, Sen. Zuckerman has been involved in the passage of Vermont's civil union and marriage equality laws, workers' rights legislation, increasing the minimum wage, sustainable (economic and environmental) agricultural policy, marijuana policy reform, election law reform, many renewable energy initiatives, progressive taxation policy as well as universal healthcare.

In January of 2014, Sen. Zuckerman introduced legislation that would allow for recreational sale and use of marijuana. If passed it would allow for possession up to 2 ounces of cannabis, and the cultivation of up to 3 plants for anyone that is 21 and over. It would also have the penalty for under-aged consumption of marijuana be the same as the current penalty± for under-aged drinking.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Zuckerman_%28politician%29

He's not an anomaly in the state legislature- not in the Vermont Senate or House.

compromise on some issues doesn't make one a "pragmatist"- it all depends which issues, how often, etc. People like Debbie Stabenow are corporate dog shit who sell out their constituents consistently. That's different from someone like Elizabeth Warren.

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Call it pragmatists versus purists. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #1
It's more a matter of social class than anything Fumesucker Feb 2014 #3
Then why help Joe Sixpack be protected from pre existing conditions? JoePhilly Feb 2014 #5
I never said anything about Democrats or Republicans Fumesucker Feb 2014 #10
Call it People-centric versus corporate-centric. Scuba Feb 2014 #4
The purist label goes to those who will decry compromise at all turns. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #7
So then Elizabeth Warren and her supporters are NOT purists, as we are willing to compromise. Scuba Feb 2014 #8
They are not ... but many of their loudest supporters are. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #11
I disagree with the "very little" conclusion. Just in appointing regulators ... Scuba Feb 2014 #14
The article mentions "liberals versus centrists, populists versus the corporate wing." Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #20
The article says "Call it what you will" ... so I did. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #22
So much is said in choice of terminlogy. n/t Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #28
I don't decry compromise, nor does hardly any other Liberal tkmorris Feb 2014 #16
that would be inaccurate. Warren isn't a purist, neither is Sanders or de Blasio cali Feb 2014 #9
They are not ... many of their loudest supporters are. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #12
Of course they'd have to make deals. cali Feb 2014 #18
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Such a black/white, up/down Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #13
I used the same binary structure that the OP refers to from the article ... JoePhilly Feb 2014 #15
Meaningless jargon. Folks tossed around 'I'm a pragmatist' to dress up their opposition to equality Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #17
Ahh ... your preferred stick. Or should I say Schtick. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #37
I prefer prostitutes vs true believers. It's so much easier to be a pragmatist when your so-called jtuck004 Feb 2014 #24
Is this why Americans get war spending & wars while the REST of the industrialized world think Feb 2014 #27
Pragmatic means doing what works for your interests. Looks like a big Fail for "centrism" Armstead Feb 2014 #29
Corporations vs the people AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #36
We are fractured, and that's a big part of it el_bryanto Feb 2014 #2
It's like the plot from Iron Man 3 Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #6
the most important point is made in Paragraph 16 Enrique Feb 2014 #19
Damn, where does that leave... freebrew Feb 2014 #23
Money does. Octafish Feb 2014 #25
Good piece but, quite frankly, I'm tired of the argument wyldwolf Feb 2014 #26
In my lifetime (60 or so years)... OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #30
August, 1968. That's when the Party leaders made it clear they would rather lose Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #31
To wit... OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #32
I'm a huge fan of Warren, de Blasio and Bernie Sanders. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #33
cuase the 'blogger class' has SO MUCH POWER!11 xchrom Feb 2014 #34
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men... Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #35
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