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MADem

(135,425 posts)
69. Well, did the spouse work and not get paid?
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 01:48 PM
Mar 2012

In other words, raise children, clean, cook, play chauffeur, shop, or run errands? Or are you just stinkin' rich and all you wanted was the pleasure of her esteemed company? There's value in that, if you can afford someone else to come in and do all the "necessary" work.

Many men--not all, in these generations coming up--back in the day thought a vacuum cleaner was a sculpture that did double duty as a place to hang one's jacket. Cooking? Fuggedaboutit. Cleaning? Women's work. Even now, in the "liberated" 21st Century, women still do more work at home than men, even as they are better educated as a demographic, and still make less than men as a group, even as many earn more than their partners. There are still more than a few men who don't pull their load, who spend all day with the XBox and all night on the computer with the gambling and porn--it's what causes problems with a lot of relationships. That's not to say there aren't any fellahs who eschew that kind of serial laziness, that are not at all unwilling do their part, but the playing field, if we are to believe all the surveys in the lifestyle magazines and newspapers, still isn't level. It's why many women prefer to remain single. Can't blame them, really--like I said, if they wanted kids, they'd raise one from scratch!

I have been a strong advocate for more women in Congress--that's probably the only way we will see any progress on this score. There needs to be more emphasis on real equality, though--in earning, opportunity, representation in public life...there still are glass ceilings out there, cracked but not shattered. I'd like to see more minority representation in public life, too--we come up short on that score as well.

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I would like to thank the Republicans for being stupid enough to piss off sarcasmo Mar 2012 #1
We married women aren't taking this lying down either. nolabear Mar 2012 #2
No we're not! one_voice Mar 2012 #3
We damn well are not going to take it any more. southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #15
Neither are us Senior Women HockeyMom Mar 2012 #24
and neither are the men gopiscrap Mar 2012 #40
Very true! HockeyMom Mar 2012 #43
And heartfelt thanks to you all! nolabear Mar 2012 #46
And we fought too long and hard EC Mar 2012 #56
Absolutely not! GreenPartyVoter Mar 2012 #27
The political posturing over our sex lives is going both ways. dkf Mar 2012 #4
Wait, how are liberals posturing? Zalatix Mar 2012 #7
Next step...vote for us or the Republicans will take away your free birth control. dkf Mar 2012 #9
That Is A True Statement, Ma'am: Why Do You Have A Problem With It? The Magistrate Mar 2012 #10
Birth control ain't free, bub. Quantess Mar 2012 #14
I don't think anyone is asking for free birth control usrname Mar 2012 #31
I know that. Maybe you should tell that to dkf, who I was replying to. Quantess Mar 2012 #32
I did it for you....told dkf BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #37
WTF??? ljm2002 Mar 2012 #19
The only thing to bemoan here is that it took THIS to wake people up. Zalatix Mar 2012 #23
I've wondered for a while now whose side dkf is on. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #66
Ummm wut? Free birth control? Birth control is free? I did not know that. Zalatix Mar 2012 #20
As usrname, post 31 said, NO ONE is asking for FREE b.c. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #36
ha ha ha ha bettyellen Mar 2012 #57
rectal exams and an affidavit from a sex partner for viagra? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #48
It's not lost to me, not when there are 3 million of the most insane attacks on women Zalatix Mar 2012 #49
"not intended to pass" = "posturing" n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #52
How so? Zalatix Mar 2012 #63
One only need read the titles in this subthread. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #67
That's a pretty loose definition of posturing. Zalatix Mar 2012 #68
Fighting absurdity with absurdity is often a legit tactic. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #70
always the "real" victim, aren't you? Tsiyu Mar 2012 #65
Maybe you don't realize that the Republicans are trying to make birth control illegal again. yardwork Mar 2012 #12
There are enough sane Democrats in the federal congress xtraxritical Mar 2012 #61
Over the counter does not get paid for by most insurance programs. That is the issue as I see it. jwirr Mar 2012 #16
the Pill is NOT OTC. Nor are IUD's BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #38
If you look at the post I was answering you will see that is they said not me. jwirr Mar 2012 #42
Hey jwirr BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #44
Agreed. However I am 70 years old and once they did Medicaid and Medicare did cover OTC item. jwirr Mar 2012 #47
Well, no. birth control shouldn't be over the counter. nolabear Mar 2012 #18
Absolutely. No way they should never be OTC. GreenPartyVoter Mar 2012 #28
not all forms of birth control are hormonal OrwellwasRight Mar 2012 #34
The Totally Tubular Home Tubal Ligation Kit was not a big seller REP Mar 2012 #45
All I am saying OrwellwasRight Mar 2012 #51
I was agreeing with you in an ass way :-) REP Mar 2012 #53
Concur. OrwellwasRight Mar 2012 #54
The DIY IUD kit didn't move well, either, so I heard.... MADem Mar 2012 #58
Birth control Aerows Mar 2012 #30
Do you feel the same about pap smears and mamagrams, how about broken arms? Bandit Mar 2012 #50
Was at a Women for Obama meeting RobertEarl Mar 2012 #5
+1 sarcasmo Mar 2012 #22
+200 AsahinaKimi Mar 2012 #60
Interesting... Zalatix Mar 2012 #6
maybe they just can't find a man who can even support themselves cojoel Mar 2012 #11
Okay I am going to deviate a bit because I supported my wife when she had no job Zalatix Mar 2012 #21
I read that as XanaDUer Mar 2012 #13
I know. I'm skeptical about their cheap psychology. Quantess Mar 2012 #17
I think the ...eligible bachelors... and ....languishing in unemployment... are the controllers in MADem Mar 2012 #59
But lots of guys support women who have no jobs... I did, too. Zalatix Mar 2012 #62
Well, did the spouse work and not get paid? MADem Mar 2012 #69
And I thank God every day for them. William769 Mar 2012 #8
To Paraphrase Beyonce Yavin4 Mar 2012 #25
Good read here, KnR, nt. chknltl Mar 2012 #26
Women Kath1 Mar 2012 #29
Single adults (period) are now the majority in this country. . . kevinbgoode1 Mar 2012 #33
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Mar 2012 #41
Excellent, thanks for posting! nt stevenleser Mar 2012 #35
Perhaps women will have clear voice in government now. Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #39
Only two groups, even "roughly"? That is way too over-simplified and doesn't help spooky3 Mar 2012 #55
Wait! What? Are_grits_groceries Mar 2012 #64
i support womens rights after all my mom,sisters,wife&daughters are women roman7 Mar 2012 #71
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