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33. That's not going to happen in Florida. ...
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 06:34 PM
Feb 2014

The Florida legislature MIGHT rewrite the law in the next full session at that's the most that will happen. Most likely the law will not be rewritten but will be expanded to allow a person to flash his weapon or even fire a warning shot to stop an attack.

Most Floridians strongly support SYG.

Poll: Floridians Overwhelmingly Support Stand Your Ground Law
By: James Taylor | July 22, 2013

Floridians overwhelmingly support the state’s “Stand Your Ground” law, according to a new poll of 900 registered voters. According to the nonpartisan Viewpoint Florida public opinion research group, 81 percent of Florida voters want to retain the law either in its current form or with some modifications, while only 13 percent favor repealing the law.

According to the poll, 50 percent of Florida voters support retaining the Stand Your Ground law in its current form. Another 31 percent support the law but would like to see it modified. Only 13 percent favor repealing the law.

Notably, independent voters supported the Stand Your Ground law more than Florida voters as a whole. The poll found 57 percent of independent voters support retaining the law in its current form, 25 percent support the law but would like to see modifications, and only 9 percent favor repealing the law.

Even Democrats generally supported Stand Your Ground. Among Democrats, 27 percent support retaining the Stand Your Ground law in its current form, 47 percent support the law but would like to see modifications, and only 22 percent favor an outright repeal.
http://mediatrackers.org/florida/2013/07/22/poll-floridians-overwhelmingly-support-stand-your-ground-law


Even some Florida law enforcement agencies support the law.

The Florida Sheriffs Association Supports the Stand Your Ground Law.

For Immediate Release

FSA President, Sheriff Grady Judd, today announced, “The right to self-defense is well-established in law. The Florida Sheriffs confirmed this position by voting unanimously, at the 2013 Florida Sheriffs Association Summer Conference, to support the Stand Your Ground law as it is currently written. Our current judicial system is comprised of multiple checks and balances to ensure fair and equitable application of all laws, including Stand Your Ground.”

Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law
A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity, and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
F.S. §776.013(3)
http://www.flsheriffs.org/newsroom/entry/the-florida-sheriffs-association-supports-the-stand-your-ground-law


Despite all the media attention the SYG law is popular in many states.

Most Americans favor 'Stand Your Ground' laws: Poll
Fri Aug 2, 2013 4:46pm EDT

(Reuters) - Most U.S. voters support the "Stand Your Ground" laws, although the question of whether to retreat or use deadly force in self defense divides Americans along gender, racial and political lines, a national poll found on Friday.

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The poll found that a strong majority of white voters and men support the laws, while black voters generally oppose them and women are almost evenly divided.

Three quarters of Republicans and most Independents support Stand Your Ground laws, while more than six in 10 Democrats oppose them. In households with gun owners, voters back the laws by a margin of 67 percent to 29 percent.

"With these kinds of numbers, it's unlikely the movement to repeal ‘Stand Your Ground' will be successful in most of the country," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/02/us-usa-florida-law-poll-idUSBRE97115F20130802


I favor keeping the law but rewriting it to remove any ambiguous wording.

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Why not? SYG defenses have like a 1.000 batting average the past couple of years... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #1
Let's look at some actual data that proves that SYG is NOT a get out of jail free card. ... spin Feb 2014 #10
That's just Florida in the last 6 years... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #11
Do I feel the SYG law in Florida could be better written? ... spin Feb 2014 #14
There have been even more egregious cases than that recently Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #22
In my opinion the basic idea of the law is solid. ... spin Feb 2014 #31
AFAIC, Zimmerman is white Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #32
Technically Zimmerman is a mix. His mother was born in Peru and his father is white. ... spin Feb 2014 #34
Zimmerman is white? phil89 Feb 2014 #53
For all intents and purposes, he certainly was for the trial Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #63
Better writen my ass bigdarryl Feb 2014 #23
That's not going to happen in Florida. ... spin Feb 2014 #33
This Floridian does not XRubicon Feb 2014 #39
I firmly support the basic concept of the law as I said. ... spin Feb 2014 #43
Zimmerman's phil89 Feb 2014 #51
Is there a racial breakdown leftynyc Feb 2014 #16
I wrote a post on this a while ago. Bazinga Feb 2014 #17
That was a very interesting post leftynyc Feb 2014 #18
The numbers don't mean much without knowing the exact Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #19
Could you elaborate... sarisataka Feb 2014 #24
Statistics are meaningless without context since all the variables differ Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #25
That helps sarisataka Feb 2014 #27
Likewise, the context is meaningless without the statistics. Bazinga Feb 2014 #58
There *is* a racial disparity Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #62
I thought the question was SYG cases. Bazinga Feb 2014 #64
I'm not attempting to discount anything Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #67
I do appreciate your input. Bazinga Feb 2014 #72
Your #6 in post 25 might explain the disparity. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #65
The report allows you to sort the data in many different ways. ... spin Feb 2014 #35
wow I'm shocked steve2470 Feb 2014 #2
SYG should not apply in this case Gothmog Feb 2014 #3
Worked for Zimmerman, and that was clearly an abuse of the law... joeybee12 Feb 2014 #4
No it didn't proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #6
Not entirely true etherealtruth Feb 2014 #7
Perhaps you should read this excellent article on the subject. ... spin Feb 2014 #12
It is a good article and does expalin the law etherealtruth Feb 2014 #15
It was the prosecution's job to prove to the jury that Zimmerman was guilty beyond ... spin Feb 2014 #36
I quite clearly understand the difference between legal guilt and not guilty (vs innocence) etherealtruth Feb 2014 #37
I will agree that juries often make questionable decisions. ... spin Feb 2014 #42
Zimmerman did not use a stand your ground defense. ... spin Feb 2014 #9
Correct, he didn't have to ... it was applied to jury instructions by judge uponit7771 Feb 2014 #20
It was indeed part of the jury instructions. ... spin Feb 2014 #44
But it was still mentioned a million times in the media Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #45
The media often makes it difficult to hold a fair trial. A high publicity case can get ... spin Feb 2014 #47
If the "feared for my life" defense worked for Zimmerman Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #61
Zimmerman's trial phil89 Feb 2014 #52
Any racist idiot (or just plain idiot with a gun) etherealtruth Feb 2014 #5
I agree gollygee Feb 2014 #28
Why Even Go Up to the Car erpowers Feb 2014 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #46
They should change the name to "White Asshole With a Gun" defense ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #13
Truth. n/t PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #49
Stand Your Ground = Lynching With Lead law uponit7771 Feb 2014 #21
So, being annoyed constitutes fear for your life? shenmue Feb 2014 #26
What changed? I don't believe he's using SYG JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #29
Yes, this appears to be speculation at this point. DirkGently Feb 2014 #40
Justifiable Use Of Deadly Force JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #41
Another stupid asshole who should not have been allowed to have and carry any gun. L0oniX Feb 2014 #30
I don't think this will work in this case, but could start vicious cycle gerogie2 Feb 2014 #38
A lot of 2nd amendment types lapfog_1 Feb 2014 #56
The defense declined to use Stand Your Ground madville Feb 2014 #48
Rescind the 2nd amendment, NOW!!!! n/t PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #50
Not happening. Now. nt Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #66
Suppose (which is doubtful) that there was a gun in the car and so someone was posing a threat. Vattel Feb 2014 #54
Sickening. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #55
Another hero to the gunner shitheads: killing black teenagers is their favorite pasttime alcibiades_mystery Feb 2014 #57
This fuck deserves to spend the rest of his worthless fucking life in jail. Stinky The Clown Feb 2014 #59
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #60
Can't help but think that if there was no SYG law in Florida, Dunn would of IsItJustMe Feb 2014 #68
Prosecutors: Fla. teen’s slaying was premeditated Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #69
Jordan Davis case: Police say 9 bullet holes found in loud music SUV Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #70
he might have beaten the rap if he'd done like Zimbo and left no witnesses Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #71
‘I hate that thug music,’ white man told fiancée moments before gunning down black teen Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #73
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