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TheKentuckian

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113. Did Greenwald deport more unauthorized migrants then the Reich winger Bush?

Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:42 PM

Feb 2014

Also, when did we decide that the expression of concerns about illegal immigration is automatically bigotry and/or racism, lot a Democratic racists it would seem.

Plus, it seems to me the guy has "evolved" a long way over time (quicker than some folks will be urged to vote for soon) and it would seem that would be appreciated to some degree rather than excuse for another shit flinging assault on the guy from folks very comfortable with "evolving", even with open and active TeaPubliKlans jumping from sinking ships due to Teabagger primary assaults and fierce defenders of epiphanies within our own ranks.

Of course only those with no clue would give much credence to the folks who brought us "boxes in his garage", "emotarians", and "firebaggers" who will ramble around the observable universe before discussing policies save as boilerplate advertising and/or testaments of faith.

All of that aside, who cares because the reported issues remain the heart of the matter so killing the messenger is pointless as can be and is automatically desperate and a deflection.

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On Glenn Greenwald's 'Bigotry'... What Somebody Forgot To Tell You... [View all] WillyT Feb 2014 OP

Because there is nothing in recent history that sticks AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #1

Does that mean I can now go back to being against the surveillance state? EOTE Feb 2014 #2

LOL !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #3

Who needs a 4th Amendment if you have a dreamy President!? villager Feb 2014 #4

I need to remember that one. EOTE Feb 2014 #9

There are "Teen Beat" (did you mean Tiger Beat?) threads in the BOG. cui bono Feb 2014 #12

That's probably what I was thinking of. EOTE Feb 2014 #18

I must disagree. It's not "supposed" to be a board of adults discussing serious rhett o rick Feb 2014 #30

Yeah, I was talking about DU, not specifically the BOG. cui bono Feb 2014 #35

I dont have a problem with them conspiring or kissing each other's posteriors rhett o rick Feb 2014 #48

What is hilariously funny, is your user name. Aerows Feb 2014 #60

Not sure what you're getting at? cui bono Feb 2014 #71

Of course you don't n/t Aerows Feb 2014 #79

What? I'm serious... cui bono Feb 2014 #87

I only peeked in there once. zeemike Feb 2014 #96

That is quite intersting information. n/t truedelphi Feb 2014 #129

When they first started it I accidentally stepped in it (it was on the latest threads or something) rhett o rick Feb 2014 #133

I made that mistake before in another group. zeemike Feb 2014 #137

Well you arent the first to mention that some juries seem to be packed. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #138

NO its supposed to be about Democrats....the President just so happens to be one of them VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #132

It is just sad that not ALL Obama supporters can post in the BOG. Rex Feb 2014 #160

Lol! n/t sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #139

I'm convinced now Aerows Feb 2014 #39

So you are saying that a person's view can 'evolve' and chage for the bettter? So an anti gay Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #5

Pretty Much... WillyT Feb 2014 #7

well the president has "evolved" on gay marriage very recently Doctor_J Feb 2014 #40

"Sanctity and God in his trail mix" Aerows Feb 2014 #41

"Cultists" TheMathieu Feb 2014 #6

But he's making the remark about cultists, not critics. Critics are intelllectually honest. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #10

You were expecting Aerows Feb 2014 #50

But that's what they are. He's talking about specific types of people. We saw the Bushies... cui bono Feb 2014 #14

"Those that choose loyalty over principles, have no principles." Flip Wilson. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #34

So , he makes the case that his beliefs/thoughts/words mean nothing now because... pkdu Feb 2014 #8

So if what you say is true then why not print GG's retraction of the story SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #11

BINGO!!! Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #15

Wow you live in some kind of fantasy world... SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #17

Why so defensive? cui bono Feb 2014 #19

LMAO.. I'm in the "no answer" mode in the thread she started SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #20

Folks are better off Aerows Feb 2014 #56

That woman was a goddess... SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #68

OMG! Aerows Feb 2014 #73

Thank You For That !!! - Seriously... That Was Fantastic !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #117

It's always a pleasure to tell that story... SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #125

The retraction is what makes it all the more laughable Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #22

Yet you will not answer why it's ok in your book for other people to SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #23

Greenwald hasn't actually changed. His goal remains the same. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #24

Ahh so now you are psychic.. and still not answering the question.. SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #28

You want me to post that pathetic retraction? Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #33

Still no answer. Speaking of pathetic... SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #36

Still trying to bring it back to Obama. Distract...distract...distract.... Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #37

Yes that's it. I'm not using a comparison that directly relates to you SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #47

I also don't buy that as an explanation. mythology Feb 2014 #126

What is his goal? Maedhros Feb 2014 #59

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil!!111111 bobduca Feb 2014 #131

Hillary supported Bush and the war on terror too. She "evolved" on Gitmo and gay marriage too riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #108

No, they are not. BTW, did you call Sen. Robert Byrd Hissyspit Feb 2014 #135

so do you continue to hold Obama's opposition to gay marriage against him? Doctor_J Feb 2014 #51

Because he doesn't believe it anymore? Hissyspit Feb 2014 #134

2005 you know back before racism was bad. nt arely staircase Feb 2014 #164

They don't care if Greenwald is a "bigot" or not. pa28 Feb 2014 #13

I just posted this in "the other thread" SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #16

So he's 'evolving', huh? randome Feb 2014 #21

Glen's views depend on what sells Progressive dog Feb 2014 #25

unlike, you know, any politicians we'd ever support! villager Feb 2014 #26

ROFLMAO... Yeah Journalists make a fortune... They live high on the hog in the 1% SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #31

Do you have evidence to support the claim that Greenwald's income Maedhros Feb 2014 #63

You are joking, 3 of 4 books Progressive dog Feb 2014 #104

So, um, "no" then. [n/t] Maedhros Feb 2014 #105

Yes it is obvious unless Progressive dog Feb 2014 #106

The argument that Greenwald is unmasking the activities of the NSA Maedhros Feb 2014 #107

That isn't an argument that I made. Progressive dog Feb 2014 #109

You imply that Glenn has changed his position on the NSA in order to milk the popularity Maedhros Feb 2014 #124

Again, you still don't get it Progressive dog Feb 2014 #141

You know this how? HangOnKids Feb 2014 #142

Observation Progressive dog Feb 2014 #143

Gotta take a pass on that one HangOnKids Feb 2014 #144

Empirical evidence of what exactly? Progressive dog Feb 2014 #145

Your claim that Glenn is in it for the money HangOnKids Feb 2014 #146

Absolutely, simple observation Progressive dog Feb 2014 #147

That is your opinion HangOnKids Feb 2014 #148

Bye Progressive dog Feb 2014 #149

So what? He's a professional journalist. Maedhros Feb 2014 #151

What? Progressive dog Feb 2014 #152

OFFS LMFAO ...EPIC FAIL! L0oniX Feb 2014 #155

Oh, you have an opinion Progressive dog Feb 2014 #156

"keeps him in the 1%" Yeah here's my opinion. That is bullshit! L0oniX Feb 2014 #158

You made that plain before, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #159

It is a crappy state of affairs when heros aren't perfect. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2014 #27

lol! 2005, fuggeddaboudit. but 2006! yes, 2006, look that up, yes! unblock Feb 2014 #29

When someone has to retract their life to appear respectible... tridim Feb 2014 #32

Why would you say such an awful thing about President Obama? EOTE Feb 2014 #43

his attack of Greenwald had nothing to do with homophobia. why are you saying that? Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #49

No, I'm talking about Obama's refusal to support marriage equality. Did you miss the link? EOTE Feb 2014 #53

If that is what you're calling homophobia...well, I got news for you Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #55

You're right, how could I suggest such a thing? EOTE Feb 2014 #57

you can call it discrimination if you like....but the word homophobia is overused. same with Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #61

Funny how so-called democrats support homophobia and bigotry when it benefits them. EOTE Feb 2014 #72

It's ok if Obama supports it n/t Aerows Feb 2014 #75

Or anyone else with a (D) next to their name, it seems. EOTE Feb 2014 #80

If this was under Bush, you couldn't hear yourself think Aerows Feb 2014 #83

By the way, the person lecturing you here on homophobia was banned from DU QC Feb 2014 #118

Makes a lot more sense now. EOTE Feb 2014 #153

Call it whatever you want. The defense of Obama changing his mind SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #76

But he was willing to speak out against equal rights for all cui bono Feb 2014 #78

Hilarious! 'It's a love based sort of discrimination he advocated'. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #99

Well, given DU's own rules regard lack of support for marriage equality to be homophobia... Scootaloo Feb 2014 #127

I Feel Your Pain... WillyT Feb 2014 #45

A rightwing site like redstate couldn't have done better Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #52

Stormfront couldn't have done any better. EOTE Feb 2014 #54

liberty? hahahha. RELEASE ALL THE DOCUMENTS, GLENN!!! WE believe in LIBERTY! and a right to KNOW! Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #58

Your logical inconsistency is hilarious. EOTE Feb 2014 #66

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #119

So Obama Gets To 'Evolve' And Glenn Greenwald Does Not ??? - Is That what You're Saying ??? WillyT Feb 2014 #62

no. I'm saying characterizing Obama's previous stand on the issue as bigoted and homophobic Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #65

He Used To Be A Stoner... Nothing Wrong With That, So Did I... More Pictures Here: WillyT Feb 2014 #90

Hillary too, I guess is a bigot. She also supported Bush and the war on terror. riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #111

That's exactly what they're saying. The OP's description of them as a Cult is deadly accurate Doctor_J Feb 2014 #121

ABC news timeline list is a hit piece? What's wrong about it? cui bono Feb 2014 #82

I'm referring to WillyT's editorializing. Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #88

And what do you think about the timeline of Obama's positions? cui bono Feb 2014 #89

silence for the the inconvenient truth neverforget Feb 2014 #136

Where is Greenwald's evolution? At the minimum, can you point to the column that msanthrope Feb 2014 #150

So I presume you won't be supporting Hillary when she's our Dem nominee? riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #110

Those that put loyalty above all else are given too much attention here. They need to rhett o rick Feb 2014 #38

Oh, rhett, come on, do you really want to converse with only those who agree with you? randome Feb 2014 #46

You dont have a clue about liberals do you? We always argue. But what we dont do and rhett o rick Feb 2014 #67

+1 Rex Feb 2014 #162

Learning process? cui bono Feb 2014 #85

I cannot help but be suspicious of your professed interest in conversation. reusrename Feb 2014 #116

Have you noticed that many of these propagandists put words like Maedhros Feb 2014 #69

Yes and I find it interesting. Are they too embarrassed to call themselves conservatives? rhett o rick Feb 2014 #74

That's always a dead giveaway. The more ostentatiously "lefty" the user ID, QC Feb 2014 #123

yeah blue*, progressive* liberal* or *dem bobduca Feb 2014 #128

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Feb 2014 #154

Obama cultists? Glenn Greenwald is smoking crack. He's just as authoritarian as GOP Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #44

You left out, "and God bless Herr General Clapper. I love all Republican Generals." nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #70

All Republican Generals serving under President Obama Aerows Feb 2014 #77

Ah yes, I get it. Pres Obama chooses Republicans instead of Democrats and then convinces the rhett o rick Feb 2014 #84

It would Aerows Feb 2014 #91

Bipartisan would mean he appointed equally progressive and conservatives. That aint the rhett o rick Feb 2014 #94

I apologize Aerows Feb 2014 #95

And this has to do with whether the government has taken domestic spying too far, how? Armstead Feb 2014 #102

Good question, but one that individual will probably be truedelphi Feb 2014 #130

Nothing, it is just word salad from desperate people. Rex Feb 2014 #163

DU Rec SixString Feb 2014 #64

I love that his excuse for a bigoted post is that he had no readers. Bette Noir Feb 2014 #81

So what's the president's excuse? EOTE Feb 2014 #86

the horse is dead. you can stop waling on it. Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #92

Why? Obama held a contrary opinion much more recently than GG did. cui bono Feb 2014 #93

Pretz is one of thousands of married, straight men who think they get to explain what Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #98

Only a straight man who dismisses equality as a "fabulous pink pony" QC Feb 2014 #114

So Hillary is a "jerk"? She supported Bush as well. She's also a "bigot" riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #112

Even if you lose the bigot he's still a GOP enabling Libertarian 1%er. great white snark Feb 2014 #97

Agreed, Greenwald is what he is, it has been making Obama look bad, someday it will become plain Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #103

ROFLMAO !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #120

How is he enabling the GOP? [n/t] Maedhros Feb 2014 #115

Apparently no one told him the internet land is like forever.... Historic NY Feb 2014 #100

K&R! Phlem Feb 2014 #101

Did Greenwald deport more unauthorized migrants then the Reich winger Bush? TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #113

THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #122

Whoopsie:) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #140

Excellent! L0oniX Feb 2014 #157

so he had just begun writing arely staircase Feb 2014 #161