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RichGirl

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64. Lies harm children too.

Sat Feb 8, 2014, 10:45 AM

Feb 2014

Being used as a pawn harms children.

Accusing an innocent man destroys his life.

Looking at all the information my opinion is he didn't do it. That's my OPINION. Just as you have your OPINION.

The biggest problem in this case is that so many people seem to think their opinions are facts.

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last thread needed about woody allen and his daughter [View all] roguevalley Feb 2014 OP

facts of the decision. liberals like facts. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #1

This is a fairly strongly worded opinion Gothmog Feb 2014 #2

his behavior grossly inappropriate and measure must be taken to protect her. seabeyond Feb 2014 #3

That is incorrect. I don't think YOU read it. Nine Feb 2014 #8

sounds to me like i am not wrong.... seabeyond Feb 2014 #10

Your own link states that Allen was allowed supervised visitation with Satchel. Nine Feb 2014 #13

I was referring to Dylan. Not the other two children. They are not the subject at hand seabeyond Feb 2014 #17

And I posted what the ruling said about Dylan. Nine Feb 2014 #22

"possible future contact between Mr. Allen and Dylan"... that would be a maybe. seabeyond Feb 2014 #24

but regardless nine, of trying to pick out shit to argue. do tell us how good a man this allen was seabeyond Feb 2014 #26

I doubt anyone said the family court "proved guilt" BainsBane Feb 2014 #12

"the verdict came in, just wasnt thru a trial" Nine Feb 2014 #14

Okay, but I think it's mistaken to take that literally BainsBane Feb 2014 #15

that would be the whole point of saying it did not go to trial, that it was the judge seabeyond Feb 2014 #18

given that he said it he would then be required to show proof. he didnt because it didnt exist. if roguevalley Feb 2014 #71

being denied even supervised visitation treestar Feb 2014 #65

kick gollygee Feb 2014 #4

Isn't it, though? It's also the only one that doesn't boil down to a statement of Squinch Feb 2014 #30

The link in the OP is well worth reading in its entirety. Z_I_Peevey Feb 2014 #5

Totally refutes the publicists account that has been regurgitated around here like gospel BainsBane Feb 2014 #6

"Ms. Farrow's chief shortcoming in regard to parenting" BainsBane Feb 2014 #7

People Magazine? As opposed to Vanity Fair? (nt) Nine Feb 2014 #23

Dylan's letter was in the New York Times. BainsBane Feb 2014 #25

and still you do not address the issue of GROSSLY inappropriate. a grown fuckin man seabeyond Feb 2014 #27

That's one person's opinion. Nine Feb 2014 #34

wow. just wow. at the expense of a child. truly, fuckin amazing seabeyond Feb 2014 #35

sorry, your view is no more valid than anyone else. kwassa Feb 2014 #38

The judge presents a "Finding of Fact" BainsBane Feb 2014 #44

The judge presents a finding of HIS facts. kwassa Feb 2014 #66

no.just no. roguevalley Feb 2014 #72

Now, that is a substantive response. kwassa Feb 2014 #77

That the team refused to testify means their finds are not evidence BainsBane Feb 2014 #79

What professional standards are you talking about? kwassa Feb 2014 #83

Did you read the ruling? It does not appear so BainsBane Feb 2014 #85

I think that both of them have dubious ethical standards. kwassa Feb 2014 #94

So I will summarize BainsBane Feb 2014 #95

"What she did to their wives was done to her by Woody Allen". Uh, no. R B Garr Feb 2014 #96

It's interesting BainsBane Feb 2014 #98

No, it's not believable at all. They seem to be very invested in their positions R B Garr Feb 2014 #100

+1 n/t Z_I_Peevey Feb 2014 #102

Thank you BainsBane Feb 2014 #103

That your reply came about 10 seconds after I posted shows me you didn't even read past the title. Nine Feb 2014 #39

Lies harm children too. RichGirl Feb 2014 #64

Your rapidly changing story BainsBane Feb 2014 #41

"Something you previously insisted was not so" Nine Feb 2014 #61

The Yale New Haven team REFUSED to testify BainsBane Feb 2014 #43

You seem determined chervilant Feb 2014 #53

Kick redqueen Feb 2014 #9

k&r Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #11

K & R thucythucy Feb 2014 #16

Kick Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #19

Thank you for posting this LiberalEsto Feb 2014 #20

You and me both - SO much worse than I had even thought TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #47

Money, fame, power LiberalEsto Feb 2014 #68

That is pretty damning. nt el_bryanto Feb 2014 #21

I'm glad he did not get custody. bravenak Feb 2014 #28

absolutely. or visitation. measures to protect dylan. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #29

It sounds like he was very inappropriate. bravenak Feb 2014 #31

that was even "a possibility". i do not know if he eventually got them or not. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #32

The court document gives the events of the day Dylan says she was abused BainsBane Feb 2014 #33

i didnt know there was more, than what was on the link. jumping back in seabeyond Feb 2014 #36

it is at the link TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #48

Me too. Why was she able to keep a license? BainsBane Feb 2014 #51

and why did they destroy their notes??? TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #59

I want to know this, too! cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #67

the lead a man, two women therapist. seabeyond Feb 2014 #69

You're "still reading the rest"?! Nine Feb 2014 #37

I'm also writing a report BainsBane Feb 2014 #40

after reading it all, i conclude with. even stuebenville rape on video had way too many people seabeyond Feb 2014 #42

and even when they finally admit to what happened they blame the victim JI7 Feb 2014 #45

Now it's "the court ruling is just an opinion" BainsBane Feb 2014 #46

+1 -- Thank you chervilant Feb 2014 #56

the extent to justify grossly inappropriate behavior while measure must be taken to protect a dylan seabeyond Feb 2014 #87

It is harsh laundry_queen Feb 2014 #55

+ a gazillion! chervilant Feb 2014 #57

Clearly the judge believed Allen a danger to Dylan BainsBane Feb 2014 #99

thanks rv.. from your link.. Cha Feb 2014 #49

If you read thee whole ruling BainsBane Feb 2014 #50

Thanks BB.. I have read most of those heartbreaking details in Cha Feb 2014 #52

The court record actually confirms Allen's account that he didn't act as a father BainsBane Feb 2014 #54

Right.. just because you're Cha Feb 2014 #58

he used an assumed name to call her and she had to leave a camp because of it roguevalley Feb 2014 #73

Yes BainsBane Feb 2014 #86

Oh dear, how to explain this: Bonobo Feb 2014 #60

nice try roguevalley Feb 2014 #75

Very enlightening. Thanks for posting this, roguevalley. nt DLevine Feb 2014 #62

you are welcome roguevalley Feb 2014 #76

What I don't understand is cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #63

To get back at Mia BainsBane Feb 2014 #88

I am hoping that is not the case cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #89

kinda what the judge called him. dylan made the accusation. the doctor called woody and seabeyond Feb 2014 #90

I suspect the judge made the right decision here cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #92

Woody Allen did not sue for custody of Dylan Farrow until after her accusations were made known Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #70

in your face obvious good point. no desire for custody until AFTER the molestation accusation seabeyond Feb 2014 #80

You're very welcome. There have been a few well sourced OP's but Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #81

K&R me b zola Feb 2014 #74

Sadly it wasn't dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #78

Unfortunately there are WAY TOO MANY people here engaging in faux-news type spin and mendacity. redqueen Feb 2014 #91

yes. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #93

Suddenly facts no longer matter BainsBane Feb 2014 #97

I just don't get it. I just. don't. get it. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #104

Read the actual judge's finding BainsBane Feb 2014 #105

The new game is the old game BainsBane Feb 2014 #82

Full legal finding of fact BainsBane Feb 2014 #84

... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #101