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In reply to the discussion: Is anyone watching this ghastly OLYMPICS Opening Ceremony display on NBC? [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)153. Pity that didn't happen.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/07/putin-s-sochi-and-hitler-s-berlin-the-love-affair-between-dictators-and-the-olympic-games.html
The 2014 Winter Games officially open in Sochi today, seven long years after the winning bid so strongly and personally supported by Russian president Vladimir Putin. Most Russians were ambivalent about this accomplishment despite our natural devotion to winter sports. What was a country with no remaining sports infrastructure for its children doing offering to spend twelve billion dollars to host foreign athletes? The official budget has since grown to over $50 billion, more than the combined cost of every previous Winter Games combined, according to a Dutch newspaper. It would be a surprise if more than 25% of those billions did more than pass through Sochi on their way from the Russian treasury to Swiss bank accounts and the London real estate market.
Social media has already turned Sochi into an international laughingstock as foreign reporters arrived to find unfinished and damaged hotels with toxic water and stray dogs in the rooms. One can only pray that the venues and courses will prove safer for the athletes and fans and that the security cordon is run more professionally. Hosting the Olympics a half-days journey from an active terrorist hotspot was absurd to begin with, and the incompetence demonstrated by the organizers thus far is not reassuring.
Do not mistake the epic graft in Sochi as unusual or incidental. Corruption is the overriding principle of Putins 14 years in power and looting the Russian treasury and the Russian people is itself the goal. For all the foolish attempts to interpret Putins geopolitical strategy and personal ideology, the common denominator is always whether or not an action helps him maintain the cash flow that in turn enables him and his clique to stay in power.
Putin also wanted the Sochi Olympics to be his Peter the Great moment, the beloved Soviet summer resort town turned into an international jewel the way Saint Petersburg was built into an Imperial capital practically from scratch. It can even be said that, like Peters endeavor, Putins transformation of Sochi relied on a serf labor force. Foreign leaders coming to cheer by Putins side at the opening ceremony, photos with all the Russian medal winners, it is easy to see the attraction. Putin also hoped to drum up some patriotic pride with a big circus to serve with thick black bread. This is the sort of delusion that sets in when a despot confuses himself with the state after too long in power. Absent the feedback mechanisms of a free media and real elections, he begins to believe his glory is the countrys glory, that what makes him happy also makes the people happy.....The International Olympic Committee is an eager partner in all of this and also has a long and dark history. After the triumph of Berlin, for example, the next Games were planned for Tokyo and Rome. New IOC President Thomas Bachs strained protests about how foreign leaders protesting Sochi are inserting politics into sport ignore that fact that selling a huge platform for propaganda and corruption to a dictatorship is also playing politics. By Bachs dubious rationale, the IOC would award the Games to North Korea as long as the venues were adequate and the fees were paid promptly.
A "Peter the Great" moment, precisely. The whole article is worth a read.
The 2014 Winter Games officially open in Sochi today, seven long years after the winning bid so strongly and personally supported by Russian president Vladimir Putin. Most Russians were ambivalent about this accomplishment despite our natural devotion to winter sports. What was a country with no remaining sports infrastructure for its children doing offering to spend twelve billion dollars to host foreign athletes? The official budget has since grown to over $50 billion, more than the combined cost of every previous Winter Games combined, according to a Dutch newspaper. It would be a surprise if more than 25% of those billions did more than pass through Sochi on their way from the Russian treasury to Swiss bank accounts and the London real estate market.
Social media has already turned Sochi into an international laughingstock as foreign reporters arrived to find unfinished and damaged hotels with toxic water and stray dogs in the rooms. One can only pray that the venues and courses will prove safer for the athletes and fans and that the security cordon is run more professionally. Hosting the Olympics a half-days journey from an active terrorist hotspot was absurd to begin with, and the incompetence demonstrated by the organizers thus far is not reassuring.
Do not mistake the epic graft in Sochi as unusual or incidental. Corruption is the overriding principle of Putins 14 years in power and looting the Russian treasury and the Russian people is itself the goal. For all the foolish attempts to interpret Putins geopolitical strategy and personal ideology, the common denominator is always whether or not an action helps him maintain the cash flow that in turn enables him and his clique to stay in power.
Putin also wanted the Sochi Olympics to be his Peter the Great moment, the beloved Soviet summer resort town turned into an international jewel the way Saint Petersburg was built into an Imperial capital practically from scratch. It can even be said that, like Peters endeavor, Putins transformation of Sochi relied on a serf labor force. Foreign leaders coming to cheer by Putins side at the opening ceremony, photos with all the Russian medal winners, it is easy to see the attraction. Putin also hoped to drum up some patriotic pride with a big circus to serve with thick black bread. This is the sort of delusion that sets in when a despot confuses himself with the state after too long in power. Absent the feedback mechanisms of a free media and real elections, he begins to believe his glory is the countrys glory, that what makes him happy also makes the people happy.....The International Olympic Committee is an eager partner in all of this and also has a long and dark history. After the triumph of Berlin, for example, the next Games were planned for Tokyo and Rome. New IOC President Thomas Bachs strained protests about how foreign leaders protesting Sochi are inserting politics into sport ignore that fact that selling a huge platform for propaganda and corruption to a dictatorship is also playing politics. By Bachs dubious rationale, the IOC would award the Games to North Korea as long as the venues were adequate and the fees were paid promptly.
A "Peter the Great" moment, precisely. The whole article is worth a read.
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Is anyone watching this ghastly OLYMPICS Opening Ceremony display on NBC? [View all]
MADem
Feb 2014
OP
WAIT for the second half, after the speeches and then wait for the lighting of the Olympic flame
Fred Sanders
Feb 2014
#1
If they looked like that, and had a costume to "go with," they wouldn't be so awful.
MADem
Feb 2014
#18
Well, Ralphie needs to GO as the designer of the US costumes. He sucks. He's had a couple of
MADem
Feb 2014
#45
Some have said they see "The Jetsons" or "Barbarella" in those outfits...
WorseBeforeBetter
Feb 2014
#213
I thought the opening sequence was cool, but the ring snowflake was funny--equality karma indeed.
fishwax
Feb 2014
#4
Yeah, but Pootie called him a SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE, arrested him, threw him in jail, and will
MADem
Feb 2014
#68
He may well be living in that salmon-walled place where he was photographed in that shiny new suit.
MADem
Feb 2014
#93
No, the Russian national anthem is not the same tune as the Internationale
Lydia Leftcoast
Feb 2014
#117
I didn't make it past the Cost as propaganda piece with the Russian tennis star
liberal N proud
Feb 2014
#8
No--the first anthem of the Russian federation was quite different, and they had it for ten years.
MADem
Feb 2014
#33
Well, I'm curious what they think. As I recalled it, the Internationale was quite popular,
MH1
Feb 2014
#56
If they still hold Russian passports, they'd be well advised to say it's all WONDERFUL!
MADem
Feb 2014
#64
You can't even compare the two--and since you're actually trying to, all I can say is I feel sorry
MADem
Feb 2014
#170
You sound like those guys who claimed that slaves liked slavery, and women preferred to
MADem
Feb 2014
#184
Well, you haven't impressed me, but I get the distinct impression you were trying like hell.
MADem
Feb 2014
#193
I thought the Russian Winter Olympics Opening Ceremony was pretty spectacular.....
democratisphere
Feb 2014
#11
I agree. The second half projection technology combined with live performers was magical and the
Fred Sanders
Feb 2014
#17
"Fun" fact--the gouged the eyes out of the guy who designed that basilica, so it would be "unique!"
MADem
Feb 2014
#99
Right now, theyre talking about Putin wanting an increased birthrate in Russia...
MADem
Feb 2014
#46
I do "do" symbolism...but I don't think it's particularly edifying to lift a child
MADem
Feb 2014
#62
I think running water that doesn't poison people is a priority in most countries.
MADem
Feb 2014
#103
The Chinese didn't approach the press in a bullying fashion and boast about their
MADem
Feb 2014
#177
I thought that was OTT as well, but by comparison to this thing, it was restrained.
MADem
Feb 2014
#35
I like the lights everyone in the crowd have. They just glow without lightening
Auntie Bush
Feb 2014
#41
Hey ! It's a different world and culture there ! I loved the Russian singer/music. nt
Laura PourMeADrink
Feb 2014
#78
I watched with someone who is hard of hearing and unwilling to get an assistive device.
MADem
Feb 2014
#124
I will confess it's been many years since I've been to a concert of that type....
MADem
Feb 2014
#97
Apparently you have not noticed that ALL Olympics Opening Ceremonies are Ghastly.
madinmaryland
Feb 2014
#107
I am curious why you found the "production" ghastly? I have been seeing the Olympics going back
madinmaryland
Feb 2014
#113
They aren't "those" headdresses, though. The "stylized" aspect is lost when paired with a skirt
MADem
Feb 2014
#131
I cannot be bothered to watch it. The overly dramatic burlesque is to be expected.
JDPriestly
Feb 2014
#154
It would be nice if they could, but you haven't been following the thread if you
MADem
Feb 2014
#187
Wow, how two people watching the same thing have totally different reactions....
Swede Atlanta
Feb 2014
#203