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In reply to the discussion: Woody Allen Speaks Out [View all]quinnox
(20,600 posts)71. So Allen took a lie detector test and passed it. And a team investigated for 7 months the accusation
and concluded there had been no molestation, and the story had either been planted, or invented. Hmm. But since Allen says he is innocent, that must mean he is guilty, because the first thing an innocent person does is admit they are guilty.
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She was in her teens and was the daughter of the woman Woody was in a relationship w/.
Botany
Feb 2014
#7
Mia Farrow is not accused of committing a major sexual assault against a child.
CTyankee
Feb 2014
#309
over a decade together. oldest at 9 or 10 when it all starts. vacations to europe as a family unit
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#125
So do you think Woody took up with Soon Yi because Mia was pregnant, not by him,
CTyankee
Feb 2014
#317
But surely you have read the problems with that report, what the judge did that would lead one to
CTyankee
Feb 2014
#328
Again, there has been pushback against all of this and there are competing lines of thought...
CTyankee
Feb 2014
#333
since so many people want to make them involved as family or romantic partners back then….
KittyWampus
Feb 2014
#38
he did not pay attention to the kids but mostly dylan, than later moses casually,
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#42
I have not weighed in on this subject before, but I did read that Mia asked Woody to
tblue37
Feb 2014
#218
it was a family unit. vacations to europe, vacations to connecticut summer home.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#60
A "family unit" that consisted of other fathers, nannies and a dozen or so kids
Major Nikon
Feb 2014
#74
Best to leave the adopted children of your lover and mother of your children alone,wouldn't you say?
boston bean
Feb 2014
#78
beyond angry someone telling me i do not know whether i would cheat on my mate with her child.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#94
two separate issues here major, on allens character. soon yi shows what a piece of shit the man is
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#98
wtf? i do not give a shit about mia. she did not molest dylan. allen did. focus....
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#108
The judge was clear regarding the civil case, you don't need caps. The prosecutor
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#280
you do not think you would? you do not think the rest would not know? i damn well KNOW
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#92
you can justify stepping over boundaries, purposely hurting loved one all you want.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#109
no. i refuse the derailing to take t to other people in the scenario. you are right. it is a ploy
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#128
because there was a subthread, presenting it as a nonfamily unit. which is incorrect.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#133
She made a specific statement about the nature of her relationship with Woody which turns out to be
seaglass
Feb 2014
#79
Not parsing, I am literally reading what she said. You're the one adding words and interpreting
seaglass
Feb 2014
#265
Wow - you are really invested in this. No need to get nasty. And that ends my interest
seaglass
Feb 2014
#273
Why? Who the heck are you to dictate who can or can't take up a relationship?
KittyWampus
Feb 2014
#40
a family unit. sisters and brothers. dating a woman and cheating with the daughter. a destruction
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#43
and knowing this, yes. he stated she was in the background, yet he noticed her
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#59
Categorically FALSE> it is beyond reason that so many DU"ers insist on repeating this lie.
KittyWampus
Feb 2014
#33
Dozens of his alleged victims spoke up. With Woody, only one alleged victim spoke up.
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2014
#10
so the victim is to be believed ONLY when someone sees the pervert in the act of abuse? even then
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#48
the point. a witness saw a rape in sandusky case, but... first one, was ignored and many rapes
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#97
the judge stated allen's behavior was grossly inappropriate and measures to protect dylan
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#115
really...? and a decade and half later in all our progession, calif, montana, canada,
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#138
nor did the judge, read his account, and why he stated they were not credible. my post addressing
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#145
The Yale New Haven study report is "sanitized and, therefore, less credible" owing to a variety of f
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#164
less credible.... really major? they fucked up and judge did not believe what they handed over.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#167
you can nit pick a word major in an effort to create an illusion the report was valid.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#171
people can go in and read. i am not hunting thru the pages again. Harvard report was not credible
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#186
Why should anyone look for an explanation for something that was never claimed?
Major Nikon
Feb 2014
#198
wrong. many in the field at the time expressed the concern harvard handled it in that manner.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#202
The judge said the report was "less credible" because he didn't have their notes
Major Nikon
Feb 2014
#245
look, he may or may not have done it, but the Yale team was clear that they didn't think he had
cali
Feb 2014
#51
what if two out of three thought he had? but the one that did not examine dylan,
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#61
it was not like he had not have a handful of years of mia, therapist telling him his behavior
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#24
2-3% false rape. 100% lie about being pedophiles. yet, you choose to believe the 100%
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#19
today, ya, he might have been, except being celebrity, probably not. 3% of rapist actually
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#30
post 48. as with polanski, sandusky, steubenville with video... people still stand up for the rapist
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#52
Given the totality of circumstances I had no problem believing Polanski and Sandusky were guilty.
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2014
#57
more children had to be raped because ONE witness was not enough. what a decade of more rapes?
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#65
Of course one sexual assault of a minor is one sexual assault too much...
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2014
#75
the point is. sandusky, there was an eye witness to rape. it was ignored for a decade allowing
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#87
And a credible investigation by Yale New Haven Hospital that suggested the charges are unfounded
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2014
#99
Yet the District Attorney didn't file charges with the information on hand
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2014
#105
I am not talking about my opinion, the prosecutor did not go forward, he stated,
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#111
There's a lot of space between "probable cause" and "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt".
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2014
#135
A prosecutor has the discretion to go forward or not..you may not agree but
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#140
"The evidence suggests it is unlikely he (Allen) he could be successfully prosecuted for sexual ...
kwassa
Feb 2014
#219
Not in isolation, no..that is not accurate. Your interpretation of the judge
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#236
Mia named one of her kids after the judge...I think she saw him on her side, too. nt
msanthrope
Feb 2014
#299
Did the Google break? Go check for yourself how many of Mia's kids have "Wilk" in their names. nt
msanthrope
Feb 2014
#301
Yeah...still waiting for you to cite post 146. So...since you've googled and found out that looney
msanthrope
Feb 2014
#303
Are you playing a game here? That looney tune Farrow...I see you have issues with Mia.
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#305
no. they were protecting the child. and they could protect her, without going to court
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#114
no. it was not credible. the judges point. three people. no notes kept for the
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#106
The opinion of a family court judge is not dispositive in a criminal matter
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2014
#113
ya. steubenville had a video and they decided there was not enough to prosecute. which brings
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#117
which anyone would say about any event when no one saw. still concerned enough to protect
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#174
NO custody. NO visitation. NO supervised visitation. i get some need a video of the rape or be
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#193
pervert, yes. likes to "joke" at womens rapes and molestation, and the boys giggle. xwife raped
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#32
"Clucking?" Really? Expressing disgust for a joke he made about the sexual assault of his
Squinch
Feb 2014
#89
Based on your argument no one should ever believe an accused person is innocent of rape. n/t
PoliticAverse
Feb 2014
#39
hyperbole. the logical would at least take into consideration the fact that pedophiles will always
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#67
No that would be statistics not logic, and statistics are trumped by the truth in a specific case.
PoliticAverse
Feb 2014
#76
Nononono. If the witch drowns, THAT is how she proves her innocence, because a witch floats. nt
tblue37
Feb 2014
#242
Yes, I would leave my pet rabbit with Mia. No, I would not leave any of my children with Woody. ymmv
Tuesday Afternoon
Feb 2014
#41
I wouldn't want either Woody or Mia to be within a mile of *me* for that matter.
tblue37
Feb 2014
#250
"self-absorbed, untrustworthy and insensitive", "his behavior grossly inappropriate with dylan"
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#16
Of course you don't. Good thing Soon-yi wasn't Allen's adopted teenage daughter.
Gidney N Cloyd
Feb 2014
#53
Mia and Woody never lived together. He never even spent the night at Mia's.
Gidney N Cloyd
Feb 2014
#308
According to Dylan, this is misleading. Allen refused to take a state-administered lie detector
Tanuki
Feb 2014
#63
There's a reason that courts don't accept 'lie detector' results as evidence. n/t
PoliticAverse
Feb 2014
#86
court says he purposely worked toward causing animosity between siblings, adopted/biological,
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#73
But that was in reference to his behavior in this case and in the Soon Yi affair, because he was
tblue37
Feb 2014
#254
Here's The 1993 Woody Allen Custody Ruling In Its Damning, Detailed Entirety
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#46
Here's the exoneration from the 7 month investigation by the team the prosecution selected
Major Nikon
Feb 2014
#221
Yep, I think you corner yourself and rely on semantics to assist your silly arguments.
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#285
I do rely on the dictionary from time to time as do most fully literate people
Major Nikon
Feb 2014
#286
Which is useless for you, as evidenced in how the judge ruled in the end. What does sanitized mean?
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#288
Don't pull that..I read the entire piece..you had a conversation with another
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#290
the thread of the acutal court documents, nothing. the thread the accused molestor proclaims
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#64
DYLAN.... accused woody of molestation, just to be accurate. i know how important that is to you
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#147
wrong. mia got off the phone when told woody allen had his head on her lap, kneeling in front of
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#150
The nanny that gave that account told one of the other nannies she regretted it
Major Nikon
Feb 2014
#205
it isnt. what was the purpose? what was her reasoning. what are you arguing making this
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#154
she had already stated the molestation. she did not want to talk about it at the doctors.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#157
i really am waiting for a reason that mia would brainwash her child to accuse a supposed innocent
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#165
all while she was "mad" at him she allowed visits with the children understanding the need
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#203
i have to leave for about ten minutes. i will check when i get back, why this matters.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#155
Oh yes. We who bear the heavy baggage of a scrotum are so oppressed by the DU gynocratic tyrants!
Scootaloo
Feb 2014
#199
yep--that makes a lot of sense; I can conclude he's a narcissistic boundary violator if nothing else
zazen
Feb 2014
#129
I don't think Dylan's claim can fall under the 'ambiguity' defense, read what Dylan wrote:
PoliticAverse
Feb 2014
#189
you may not know what either are capable of, but declared dylan lied and woody wouldnt do it.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#204
So Allen took a lie detector test and passed it. And a team investigated for 7 months the accusation
quinnox
Feb 2014
#71
If ? It indicates they did not find cause to ask her and as you can see, the judge did
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#100
Like I said, you do not comprehend, no nuance...he names Levanthal who was
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#225
You have that backwards, but that appears to be a problem for you, overall, when
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#235
So as evidence of you not using the fully literate meaning of the word "less" you give an example
Major Nikon
Feb 2014
#240
If Woody Allen wants to claim that Mia manipulated Dylan over some ice cream...
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#259
No, the custody appeal definitely mentions the abuse allegations on the first page.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#266
If money protects him, why didnt he pay off Mia when Dershowitz made the offer?
reddread
Feb 2014
#315
I think the bottom line is they tried to secure a payoff and he refused. speaks volumes.
reddread
Feb 2014
#323