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defacto7

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37. I've posted this point before....

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 02:10 AM

Feb 2014

But I think the unprecedented period of peace that's been argued depends on a person's definition of peace. Peace by what means could make a difference in perspective. Peace for whom also makes a difference. Stable peace is different from peace at a point in time. What properties are present that make peace a permanent fixture rather than an period of exception.

Time period is a strange concept when talking about human history and it's nonsensical when comparing it to global history where we are not even a blip. Perspectives are important to survival now that there is a reasoning animal on the planet.

I wish for, I hope for, dream of a utopia of peace. But the mess we have is deceiving to some as a peaceful period.

As for the message of peace proposed in the OP, I am completely convinced of its truth. As for retaining peace through present methods of deceit and military power, damn that to hell. But neither will succeed at this point.

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Some questions... ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #9

Well CFLDem Feb 2014 #12

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I am curious MyNameGoesHere Feb 2014 #32

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This really sums it up very well. defacto7 Feb 2014 #31

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Oh amurka the savior huh? MyNameGoesHere Feb 2014 #11

No not to save them CFLDem Feb 2014 #14

We don't behave. why should they? eom MyNameGoesHere Feb 2014 #15

I guess it's time for the talk. CFLDem Feb 2014 #19

Quoting another "realist" for you, George Kennan davekriss Feb 2014 #49

Bingo! Springslips Feb 2014 #53

We kill children in third world countries Maedhros Feb 2014 #59

I've posted this point before.... defacto7 Feb 2014 #37

And absolutely again. maddiemom Feb 2014 #21

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BS! DeSwiss Feb 2014 #56

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In a rare moment, I am at a loss for words. But I am not surprised. A Simple Game Feb 2014 #66

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Not playing with a full deck. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #10

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Actually CFLDem Feb 2014 #22

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+1000!!1!!11!! A voice of reason. RC Feb 2014 #43

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The reality isn't just that simple out there in the big world. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #50

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