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In reply to the discussion: A serious question about Bernie Sanders [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)21. Well,
"Okay, I'm sounding like a fanboy. My question touches on something larger than him."
...one man can't do it alone. The reality is that there will always be a need for compromise, from the farm bill to minimum wage. I mean, if it were up to Sanders alone, I'm sure he would be proposing a minimum wage higher than $10.10.
Welfare for Walmart?
Wal-mart pays its employees so little that many of the low-wage workers must rely on food stamps to feed their families and Medicaid to pay doctors when their children get sick. Do you think the wealthiest family in this country should have large numbers of employees that depend on Medicaid, Sen. Bernie Sanders asked a panel of experts at a Joint Economic Committee hearing Thursday. That is corporate welfare of the worst kind, said Robert Reich, a professor at the University of California at Berkeley and a former U.S. Secretary of Labor. The hearing was called to look at the economic impact of raising the federal minimum wage. Sanders is cosponsor of a bill that would boost the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour from the current level of $7.25.
Watch Sanders at the Joint Economic Committee hearing
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/welfare-for-walmart
Wal-mart pays its employees so little that many of the low-wage workers must rely on food stamps to feed their families and Medicaid to pay doctors when their children get sick. Do you think the wealthiest family in this country should have large numbers of employees that depend on Medicaid, Sen. Bernie Sanders asked a panel of experts at a Joint Economic Committee hearing Thursday. That is corporate welfare of the worst kind, said Robert Reich, a professor at the University of California at Berkeley and a former U.S. Secretary of Labor. The hearing was called to look at the economic impact of raising the federal minimum wage. Sanders is cosponsor of a bill that would boost the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour from the current level of $7.25.
Watch Sanders at the Joint Economic Committee hearing
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/welfare-for-walmart
If it were up to Sanders alone, Guantanamo would be closed.
Senate Delegation Heads to Cuba
Sen. Bernie Sanders departed today on a congressional delegation trip to Cuba. The senators will discuss human rights, trade and health care issues in Havana and also travel to Guantánamo Bay Naval Base where the United States since 2002 has detained prisoners with suspected links to al Qaeda.
Sanders has supported President Barack Obamas effort to close the military prison. We should aggressively defend ourselves against terrorism, but we must do so in a way that is consistent with our nations core values, he said. The prison at Guantánamo Bay has significantly damaged the United States moral standing, undermined our foreign policy, and encouraged terrorism rather than effectively combated it.
During the Havana leg of the trip, the delegation plans to meet with Alan Gross, an American arrested in 2009 while working as a subcontractor for the U.S. Agency for International Development to set up Internet access for Cubans. Gross is serving a 15-year sentence. His case has become an obstacle to improving ties between the United States and Cuba, which have not had formal diplomatic relations since 1961.
Sanders supports normalized relations between the two nations. American businesses are losing billions of dollars because of the economic embargo. Meanwhile, Canadians and Europeans are creating jobs through their investments in Cuba, he said. My hope is that Cuba moves toward a more democratic society while, at the same time, the United States will respect the independence of the Cuban people.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/senate-delegation-heads-to-cuba
Sen. Bernie Sanders departed today on a congressional delegation trip to Cuba. The senators will discuss human rights, trade and health care issues in Havana and also travel to Guantánamo Bay Naval Base where the United States since 2002 has detained prisoners with suspected links to al Qaeda.
Sanders has supported President Barack Obamas effort to close the military prison. We should aggressively defend ourselves against terrorism, but we must do so in a way that is consistent with our nations core values, he said. The prison at Guantánamo Bay has significantly damaged the United States moral standing, undermined our foreign policy, and encouraged terrorism rather than effectively combated it.
During the Havana leg of the trip, the delegation plans to meet with Alan Gross, an American arrested in 2009 while working as a subcontractor for the U.S. Agency for International Development to set up Internet access for Cubans. Gross is serving a 15-year sentence. His case has become an obstacle to improving ties between the United States and Cuba, which have not had formal diplomatic relations since 1961.
Sanders supports normalized relations between the two nations. American businesses are losing billions of dollars because of the economic embargo. Meanwhile, Canadians and Europeans are creating jobs through their investments in Cuba, he said. My hope is that Cuba moves toward a more democratic society while, at the same time, the United States will respect the independence of the Cuban people.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/senate-delegation-heads-to-cuba
On the efforts to close Guantanmo.
Senate Eases Transfer Restrictions for Guantánamo Detainees
WASHINGTON The Senate late last night passed the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2014, which will ease transfer restrictions for detainees currently held at the military detention camp at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, most of whom have been held without charge or trial for over a decade. The bill, which passed the House of Representatives last week, cleared the Senate by a vote of 84-15. The improved transfer provisions were sponsored by Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin and were strongly supported by the White House and the Defense Department.
"This is a big step forward for meeting the goal of closing Guantánamo and ending indefinite detention. For the first time ever, Congress is making it easier, rather than harder, for the Defense Department to close Guantánamo and this win only happened because the White House and Defense Secretary worked hand in hand with the leadership of the congressional committees," said Christopher Anders, senior legislative counsel at the ACLUs Washington Legislative Office. "After years of a blame-game between Congress and the White House, both worked together to clear away obstacles to transferring out of Guantánamo the vast majority of detainees who have never been charged with a crime."
The current population at Guantánamo stands at 158 detainees, approximately half of whom were cleared for transfer to their home or third-party countries by U.S. national security officials four years ago. Also, periodic review boards have recently started reviews of detainees who have not been charged with a crime and had not been cleared in the earlier reviews. While the legislation eases the transfer restrictions for sending detainees to countries abroad, it continues to prohibit the transfer of detainees to the United States for any reason, including for trial or medical emergencies.
"There has been a sea change on the Guantánamo issue, both in Congress and at the White House. With the presidents renewed commitment to closing it, and the support of Congress, there now is reason to hope that the job of closing Guantánamo and ending indefinite detention can get done before the president leaves office," said Anders. "As big as this win is, there is more work left to be done. The Defense Department has to use the new transfer provisions to step up transfers out of Guantánamo, and Congress needs to remove the remaining ban on using federal criminal courts to try detainees."
President Obama is expected to sign the defense bill into law before the end of the year.
https://www.aclu.org/national-security/senate-eases-transfer-restrictions-guantanamo-detainees
WASHINGTON The Senate late last night passed the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2014, which will ease transfer restrictions for detainees currently held at the military detention camp at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, most of whom have been held without charge or trial for over a decade. The bill, which passed the House of Representatives last week, cleared the Senate by a vote of 84-15. The improved transfer provisions were sponsored by Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin and were strongly supported by the White House and the Defense Department.
"This is a big step forward for meeting the goal of closing Guantánamo and ending indefinite detention. For the first time ever, Congress is making it easier, rather than harder, for the Defense Department to close Guantánamo and this win only happened because the White House and Defense Secretary worked hand in hand with the leadership of the congressional committees," said Christopher Anders, senior legislative counsel at the ACLUs Washington Legislative Office. "After years of a blame-game between Congress and the White House, both worked together to clear away obstacles to transferring out of Guantánamo the vast majority of detainees who have never been charged with a crime."
The current population at Guantánamo stands at 158 detainees, approximately half of whom were cleared for transfer to their home or third-party countries by U.S. national security officials four years ago. Also, periodic review boards have recently started reviews of detainees who have not been charged with a crime and had not been cleared in the earlier reviews. While the legislation eases the transfer restrictions for sending detainees to countries abroad, it continues to prohibit the transfer of detainees to the United States for any reason, including for trial or medical emergencies.
"There has been a sea change on the Guantánamo issue, both in Congress and at the White House. With the presidents renewed commitment to closing it, and the support of Congress, there now is reason to hope that the job of closing Guantánamo and ending indefinite detention can get done before the president leaves office," said Anders. "As big as this win is, there is more work left to be done. The Defense Department has to use the new transfer provisions to step up transfers out of Guantánamo, and Congress needs to remove the remaining ban on using federal criminal courts to try detainees."
President Obama is expected to sign the defense bill into law before the end of the year.
https://www.aclu.org/national-security/senate-eases-transfer-restrictions-guantanamo-detainees
Statement by the President on H.R. 3304
Today I have signed into law H.R. 3304, the "National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2014." I have signed this annual defense authorization legislation because it will provide pay and bonuses for our service members, enhance counterterrorism initiatives abroad, build the security capacity of key partners, and expand efforts to prevent sexual assault and strengthen protections for victims.
Since taking office, I have repeatedly called upon the Congress to work with my Administration to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The continued operation of the facility weakens our national security by draining resources, damaging our relationships with key allies and partners, and emboldening violent extremists.
For the past several years, the Congress has enacted unwarranted and burdensome restrictions that have impeded my ability to transfer detainees from Guantanamo. Earlier this year I again called upon the Congress to lift these restrictions and, in this bill, the Congress has taken a positive step in that direction. Section 1035 of this Act gives the Administration additional flexibility to transfer detainees abroad by easing rigid restrictions that have hindered negotiations with foreign countries and interfered with executive branch determinations about how and where to transfer detainees. Section 1035 does not, however, eliminate all of the unwarranted limitations on foreign transfers and, in certain circumstances, would violate constitutional separation of powers principles. The executive branch must have the flexibility, among other things, to act swiftly in conducting negotiations with foreign countries regarding the circumstances of detainee transfers. Of course, even in the absence of any statutory restrictions, my Administration would transfer a detainee only if the threat the detainee may pose can be sufficiently mitigated and only when consistent with our humane treatment policy. Section 1035 nevertheless represents an improvement over current law and is a welcome step toward closing the facility.
In contrast, sections 1033 and 1034 continue unwise funding restrictions that curtail options available to the executive branch. Section 1033 renews the bar against using appropriated funds to construct or modify any facility in the United States, its territories, or possessions to house any Guantanamo detainee in the custody or under the control of the Department of Defense unless authorized by the Congress. Section 1034 renews the bar against using appropriated funds to transfer Guantanamo detainees into the United States for any purpose. I oppose these provisions, as I have in years past, and will continue to work with the Congress to remove these restrictions. The executive branch must have the authority to determine when and where to prosecute Guantanamo detainees, based on the facts and circumstances of each case and our national security interests. For decades, Republican and Democratic administrations have successfully prosecuted hundreds of terrorists in Federal court. Those prosecutions are a legitimate, effective, and powerful tool in our efforts to protect the Nation. Removing that tool from the executive branch does not serve our national security interests. Moreover, section 1034 would, under certain circumstances, violate constitutional separation of powers principles.
The detention facility at Guantanamo continues to impose significant costs on the American people. I am encouraged that this Act provides the Executive greater flexibility to transfer Guantanamo detainees abroad, and look forward to working with the Congress to take the additional steps needed to close the facility. In the event that the restrictions on the transfer of Guantanamo detainees in sections 1034 and 1035 operate in a manner that violates constitutional separation of powers principles, my Administration will implement them in a manner that avoids the constitutional conflict.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/12/26/statement-president-hr-3304
Today I have signed into law H.R. 3304, the "National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2014." I have signed this annual defense authorization legislation because it will provide pay and bonuses for our service members, enhance counterterrorism initiatives abroad, build the security capacity of key partners, and expand efforts to prevent sexual assault and strengthen protections for victims.
Since taking office, I have repeatedly called upon the Congress to work with my Administration to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The continued operation of the facility weakens our national security by draining resources, damaging our relationships with key allies and partners, and emboldening violent extremists.
For the past several years, the Congress has enacted unwarranted and burdensome restrictions that have impeded my ability to transfer detainees from Guantanamo. Earlier this year I again called upon the Congress to lift these restrictions and, in this bill, the Congress has taken a positive step in that direction. Section 1035 of this Act gives the Administration additional flexibility to transfer detainees abroad by easing rigid restrictions that have hindered negotiations with foreign countries and interfered with executive branch determinations about how and where to transfer detainees. Section 1035 does not, however, eliminate all of the unwarranted limitations on foreign transfers and, in certain circumstances, would violate constitutional separation of powers principles. The executive branch must have the flexibility, among other things, to act swiftly in conducting negotiations with foreign countries regarding the circumstances of detainee transfers. Of course, even in the absence of any statutory restrictions, my Administration would transfer a detainee only if the threat the detainee may pose can be sufficiently mitigated and only when consistent with our humane treatment policy. Section 1035 nevertheless represents an improvement over current law and is a welcome step toward closing the facility.
In contrast, sections 1033 and 1034 continue unwise funding restrictions that curtail options available to the executive branch. Section 1033 renews the bar against using appropriated funds to construct or modify any facility in the United States, its territories, or possessions to house any Guantanamo detainee in the custody or under the control of the Department of Defense unless authorized by the Congress. Section 1034 renews the bar against using appropriated funds to transfer Guantanamo detainees into the United States for any purpose. I oppose these provisions, as I have in years past, and will continue to work with the Congress to remove these restrictions. The executive branch must have the authority to determine when and where to prosecute Guantanamo detainees, based on the facts and circumstances of each case and our national security interests. For decades, Republican and Democratic administrations have successfully prosecuted hundreds of terrorists in Federal court. Those prosecutions are a legitimate, effective, and powerful tool in our efforts to protect the Nation. Removing that tool from the executive branch does not serve our national security interests. Moreover, section 1034 would, under certain circumstances, violate constitutional separation of powers principles.
The detention facility at Guantanamo continues to impose significant costs on the American people. I am encouraged that this Act provides the Executive greater flexibility to transfer Guantanamo detainees abroad, and look forward to working with the Congress to take the additional steps needed to close the facility. In the event that the restrictions on the transfer of Guantanamo detainees in sections 1034 and 1035 operate in a manner that violates constitutional separation of powers principles, my Administration will implement them in a manner that avoids the constitutional conflict.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/12/26/statement-president-hr-3304
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It's possible that the politics haven't quite caught up to the reality most people face.
Smarmie Doofus
Feb 2014
#1
I think you already answered it. It's the money. All the money that's spent to pave the
Dark n Stormy Knight
Feb 2014
#3
Yep. Because those with loads of dough continually buy power and influence,
Dark n Stormy Knight
Feb 2014
#8
So give me a guess how much percentage of liberal dollars compared to conservative dollars are spent
rhett o rick
Feb 2014
#62
I will never stop fighting but I think that being pragmatic, we are badly losing the war.
rhett o rick
Feb 2014
#70
There may be some wealthy liberals and they may give their money to Democrats but
rhett o rick
Feb 2014
#79
And Obama got a lot of support in some traditionally Republican-friendly parts of the country...
YoungDemCA
Feb 2014
#99
"I saved a thousand slaves. I could have saved a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.
jtuck004
Feb 2014
#10
Call me crazy, but social democracy seems like a pretty good alternative...
Hippo_Tron
Feb 2014
#104
This may sound naive -- But i believe a lot of peope with money agree with Sanders principles
Armstead
Feb 2014
#19
Yes, we must appease - oops! I mean compromise with - extreme ultra-right wing crackpots!
bananas
Feb 2014
#24
Most Dem leaders are bought and most Dem followers are, well, followers. Baaaaa
polichick
Feb 2014
#23
I agree with you 100 percent on that...(or 90 percent to leave a margin for error)
Armstead
Feb 2014
#76
Anyone know if TV viewing rates are significantly different in Vermont compared with the US overall?
muriel_volestrangler
Feb 2014
#32
The Party is controlled by corporate money. They get to vet our candidates. That simple. nt
Romulox
Feb 2014
#34
And the millions of dollars spent by corporate donors? Merely incidental to the process, I guess.
Romulox
Feb 2014
#50
First we must understand that Democrats are not the Democratic Party. The party is a
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2014
#54
Actually, Pat Leahy is worth even less than Bernie- and Leahy has been in the Senate
cali
Feb 2014
#71
"A re-emphasis on economic progressive populism would do wonders in this day and age"
YoungDemCA
Feb 2014
#95