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cali

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Sun Feb 9, 2014, 02:37 PM Feb 2014

Fracking is a huge environmental and human threat. Why does Obama support it? [View all]

Advocates of fracking seem to be fond of saying that it can be done safely. That may be true but there's little to indicate that it is being done safely.

Here are just some of the problems with fracking:

Water. It takes enormous amounts of water. Many of the places in this country undergoing serious drought, are also places where fracking is taking place. In fact, something like 50% of fracking wells are in drought impacted regions.

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Nearly half of the 39,294 reported "fracked" wells drilled in the U.S. since 2011 are in regions with high or extreme water stress, according to a report by Ceres, an investor and environmental-advocacy group.

In Colorado, Ceres found that 97 percent of the wells are being drilled in highly or extremely highly water-stressed areas, such as the Denver-Julesburg Basin.

Read more: When drought occurs, fracking and farming collide - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_25089583/when-drought-occurs-fracking-and-farming-collide#ixzz2sqzl1PSV

That fact in itself should be enough for any thinking person to grasp the negative impact of fracking on the environment, but there's so much more:

Water quality:

Fracking pollutes water.

Tests show Texas well water polluted by fracking, despite EPA assurances
http://grist.org/news/tests-show-texas-well-water-polluted-by-fracking-despite-epa-assurances/

Fracking in America generated 280bn US gallons of toxic waste water last year – enough to flood all of Washington DC beneath a 22ft deep toxic lagoon, a new report out on Thursday found.

The report from campaign group Environment America said America's transformation into an energy superpower was exacting growing costs on the environment.

"Our analysis shows that damage from fracking is widespread and occurs on a scale unimagined just a few years ago," the report, Fracking by the Numbers, said.

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http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/oct/04/fracking-us-toxic-waste-water-washington

http://www.environmentamerica.org/sites/environment/files/reports/EA_FrackingNumbers_scrn.pdf

Fracking's Impact on Climate Change:

As controversy rages over high-volume hydraulic fracturing and climate change, Cornell University professor Robert Howarth has fanned the flames.

Howarth, 61, of Trumansburg, was the lead author of a 2011 study that was the first to explore natural gas leaks, chiefly made up of methane, and their impacts on climate change.
Howarth’s study found that methane leakage from fracking was speeding climate change quicker than previously estimated. The study questioned the viability of natural gas as a clean fuel that could bridge the gap toward sustainable energy sources, and it added a new dimension to the debate over fracking. Howarth’s work drew heavy fire from the oil-and-gas industry, and praise from environmental activists.

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http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20140208/NEWS01/302080015/Cornell-expert-impacts-fracking-debate

The EPA has done a for shit job re fracking:

A major report on the environmental impact of fracking has been delayed until 2016. The study, which began in 2010, was scheduled to be released this year.

The EPA has dropped several studies:


EPA Abandons Fracking Study In Pavilion, Wyoming Following Similar Closed Investigations

When the Environmental Protection Agency abruptly retreated on its multimillion-dollar investigation into water contamination in a central Wyoming natural gas field last month, it shocked environmentalists and energy industry supporters alike.

In 2011, the agency had issued a blockbuster draft report saying that the controversial practice of fracking was to blame for the pollution of an aquifer deep below the town of Pavillion, Wy. – the first time such a claim had been based on a scientific analysis.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/03/epa-fracking-study-pavillion-wyoming_n_3542365.html

Internal EPA Report Conflicts with Agency’s Stance on Fracking Contamination in Pennsylvania Town

http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/internal-epa-report-conflicts-with-agencys-stance-on-fracking-contamination-in-pennsylvania-town-130731?news=850736

Fracking and birth defects:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116490/colorado-fracking-study-evidence-it-causes-birth-defects-mounting

The explosion in the number of fracking wells is continuing at breakneck speed:

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Since the late 1990s, American landscapes have become dotted with a small forest of shale gas wells — 13,000 new ones a year, or about 35 a day, according to the American Petroleum Institute. In the past decade, this steady stream of development has become a gusher as nearly half the country has staked claim to these energy riches. In 2000, the USA had 342,000 natural gas wells. By 2010, more than 510,000 were in place — a 49% jump — according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

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http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-05-29/fracking-environment-gas/55845708/1





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Because he is a corporatist nt LiberalEsto Feb 2014 #1
He loves the money folk. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #15
Because he is a corporatist. Oh, did you say that? Well, then I agree. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #28
Always has been BlueJac Feb 2014 #45
But his former Interior Secretary says it has not “created an environmental problem for anyone” jsr Feb 2014 #2
so do quite a few DUers. cali Feb 2014 #4
Good luck getting a straight answer to your question. Laelth Feb 2014 #3
Because he's sooo bi-partisany Wilms Feb 2014 #5
I think the EPA and their shenanigans is connected to the President's support cali Feb 2014 #6
There is nothing quite so dreamy as cooperating with Republicans. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #59
return on investment? joshcryer Feb 2014 #7
Interesting. If you'd like to expand, I'm genuinely interested. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #21
on my phone right now joshcryer Feb 2014 #31
Only he knows. malthaussen Feb 2014 #8
But many experts in the field- as demonstrated in my OP- are quite clear about the dangers cali Feb 2014 #9
Well, some experts have paid good money in the form of campaign contributions Maedhros Feb 2014 #40
Only a know it all can afford to go through life without ever "trusting" the experts treestar Feb 2014 #11
When there is disagreement, shouldn't there at least be recognition of that? cali Feb 2014 #17
Who is it that does not recognize disagreement? treestar Feb 2014 #20
No, I'm stating that there is significant evidence that fracking is cali Feb 2014 #23
Maybe if we were seeing some money devoted to phasing out these horrible sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #32
Yep. Show me the money. malthaussen Feb 2014 #35
Because one again, he does not accept your conclusions wholesale? treestar Feb 2014 #10
want to post something that counters the facts that I posted? cali Feb 2014 #13
Good luck with that. It will never happen. Rex Feb 2014 #77
Yep. Why would any fracking company or politician do things out of "ill-will"? Wilms Feb 2014 #14
you really think they are doing it to harm you or others? treestar Feb 2014 #19
You done putting words in my mouth? Wilms Feb 2014 #22
No, I said nothing whatsoever about President Obama being evil. cali Feb 2014 #24
Only if Pres Obama says so. You are wasting your time trying to get any rhett o rick Feb 2014 #66
The people making money off of fracking don't care who it harms. Laelth Feb 2014 #26
Well until you explain how the "more complex" is helping the masses then rhett o rick Feb 2014 #29
Well said. Me too. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #61
Do you know anything about the science of fracking, about the actual harm sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #39
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it Enthusiast Feb 2014 #63
Here's an article that addresses earthquakes and fracking: sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #69
Thank you, Sabrina. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #73
everyone lives downstream--but some can buy houses upstream MisterP Feb 2014 #12
Or as Bernadotte, who owned the upstream house, said of Napoleon, malthaussen Feb 2014 #16
Anyone who has ever worked in the oil fields knows the main issue with fracking is Chinese steel. Drahthaardogs Feb 2014 #18
What about the facts about fracking water usage and drought? cali Feb 2014 #25
Have you ever been in a gas field? Drahthaardogs Feb 2014 #41
Supporters would have a lot more credibility if they would ever demand the "easy" answers TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #43
Federal Royalties are 12% on new gas leases. Drahthaardogs Feb 2014 #50
Chinese Steel isn't the only issue and Harmony Blue Feb 2014 #51
No its not. Drahthaardogs Feb 2014 #55
what about the problems associated with fracking and drought? cali Feb 2014 #56
Who do you choose to believe Drahthaardogs Feb 2014 #68
scientists and researchers. I certainily don't believe the completely ANECDOTAL cali Feb 2014 #75
Except you do... Drahthaardogs Feb 2014 #79
The west is in a 14-year drought. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #64
we need a better STRAW! pansypoo53219 Feb 2014 #27
For the same reasons he supports mandating everyone to buy corporate insurance solarhydrocan Feb 2014 #30
Just out of curiosity, truebluegreen Feb 2014 #44
That's a great question solarhydrocan Feb 2014 #54
Fair enough truebluegreen Feb 2014 #72
because hypocricy knows no bounds on DU... dionysus Feb 2014 #57
well, sure. it's hardly exclusive to DU cali Feb 2014 #58
'Cause that's what reagan democrats do. Jakes Progress Feb 2014 #33
Another disturbing thing about fracking is how much is done on public lands cali Feb 2014 #34
On the hopeful side, malthaussen Feb 2014 #36
Because... Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #37
I'll let the President tell you himself: DeSwiss Feb 2014 #38
All of what oil goes to Europe? Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #42
Probably meant the Keystone XL oil dreamnightwind Feb 2014 #76
Great question. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #46
I think it is too. I'm much more concerned about the explosive growth of fracking that Keystone cali Feb 2014 #47
As am I. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #48
not just allowed, but encouraged, expedited and subsidized cali Feb 2014 #49
I wonder though sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #52
that's not pertinent. cali Feb 2014 #53
May be,but sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #62
because he supports republican ideas and policies frwrfpos Feb 2014 #60
Becuase... bvar22 Feb 2014 #65
what rankles so, is that President Obama says the right things (frequently) about environmental cali Feb 2014 #67
He supports it because big money wants it and so what they want is what he does. nt arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #70
He believes it is the solution for climate change. reusrename Feb 2014 #71
yep. that's deeply cynical, or deeply ignorant or denial cali Feb 2014 #74
It's that third way thing rearing its ugly head AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #78
kick cali Feb 2014 #80
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