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malthaussen

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31. Kind of a poor comparison, there.
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 04:50 PM
Feb 2014

Flight was a physical problem. Education is a social problem. The variation in complexity is huge. And your "free" education is paid for by others. Teachers and administrators have to be paid. Physical plant must be constructed and maintained. A myriad costs are entailed in education. Education could be provided free to the recipient -- this has been done, is still being done in parts of Europe. But those places where college education is "free" do not provide it for all, do not believe as we do that "everybody should have a college education."

Sure, by taxation we could improve our education at every level, not just college, and spread the costs around among those who already have the cash, rather than imposing crushing debt on those just starting out. By taxation we could solve a whole bushel basket of problems. But our government lacks the will to raise taxes to pay for these things.

I would also suggest that you consider things from the point of view of those who hold the money for a moment. The bald truth is that they do not need a large, educated workforce, that the vast majority of jobs could be done by illiterates and only a small, highly-specialized coterie need be educated for their purposes. Why on earth would they disgorge for something they don't want? Unless forced, of course.

-- Mal

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A better idea would be to forbid the use of federal student loans at schools former9thward Feb 2014 #1
there are lots of better ideas for everything. they are not feasable because shut up Adam051188 Feb 2014 #29
The government doesn't profit off student loans gerogie2 Feb 2014 #2
I've never said this before but I would rather go without a college degree than liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #11
There is no such thing as a free college education gerogie2 Feb 2014 #14
there didn't used to be a such thing as an airplane either. Those that lack liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #17
Kind of a poor comparison, there. malthaussen Feb 2014 #31
... and, what a lovely choice (many) young folk are forced to make etherealtruth Feb 2014 #18
LOL. Cal Carpenter Feb 2014 #20
LOL yourself The very first line of that Wiki entry that you refer to begins with....... WillowTree Feb 2014 #25
What's your point? Cal Carpenter Feb 2014 #26
are you sure you're a democrat? Adam051188 Feb 2014 #32
How's that "free" college degree going to be paid for if not by taxes? WillowTree Feb 2014 #23
That's exactly what it should be paid with just like K-12 is. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #24
Yes, a grant is not a loan, but closer to a scholarship that needn't be paid back. maddiemom Feb 2014 #12
"Refinancing will do very little for college students." bull fucking shit. dionysus Feb 2014 #27
So all of these publications are liars, and you are the expert? Yeah, Riiiiight. notadmblnd Feb 2014 #28
lol Adam051188 Feb 2014 #30
K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #3
How about free education for all instead of tying the future of the US to an attempt to make profit? xocet Feb 2014 #4
+1000 debunkthis Feb 2014 #5
Best response in this thread. Oakenshield Feb 2014 #6
The obvious answer. PS - this week cost us another 2 billion in Afghanistan. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #8
Thank god Obama withdrew from Afghanistan. morningfog Feb 2014 #10
+1 liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #9
yeah... really... tk2kewl Feb 2014 #13
+1 joshcryer Feb 2014 #15
+1 cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #16
Students need to stop paying loans, unionize, and bargain for reduction in principal. reformist2 Feb 2014 #7
I'd like to see up-front fees replaced with a graduate tax. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #19
that would be cool, if it would pass treestar Feb 2014 #21
Awesome. She rocks! Vattel Feb 2014 #22
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