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44. Here we go again
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 08:29 AM
Feb 2014

Every year around Westminster, this discussion starts.

I have had purebred Afghan Hounds for 40 (FORTY) years. I have shown dogs for 40 years. I have been training dogs since I was 6. I LOVE my dogs more than you will ever know. I don't take extended vacations because of my dogs. I am always home by a certain time because of my dogs. I spend money on my dogs (and have for forty years) that could have improved my lifestyle, but the dogs ALWAYS come first. I spend at least 18 hours a week grooming my dogs and much more cooking their dinner, training them, playing with them and picking up after them. I KNOW WHERE EVERY PUPPY THAT WAS BORN HERE IS NOW, and a lot of them have stayed with me. We haven't had many litters because, you see, as responsible breeder is prepared to keep every puppy they breed if necessary. I live in an extremely red section of the state I live in because the dogs can have room to run and play and BARK, because, you see, neighbors SUCK. Their kids can raise nine kinds of hell, all hours of the day and night, but your dog better not bark at all. Oh, and BTW, I do rescue, and have for forty years. We don't get many Affies because they don't act like Labs (they are aloof like a cat), and Af breeders know this and are careful about where any Af goes. Mr. and Mrs. America want a dog that hangs on their every whim, not one that says "Don't bother me now."

Shelter dogs, I have noticed, are usually pits and labs and small dogs. I cruise the sites in case there are Afghans. Lots of shelter dogs have behavior problems and that is why they are in a shelter. This is extremely sad, but until you convince Mr and Mrs America that socialization is necessary, it is likely to remain this way. Show dogs have to be socialized because a perfect stranger comes up to them and touches their most intimate places. Shelter dogs also come from "breeders" (anyone who puts a bitch in heat with a dog and gets puppies is a breeder by definition) that want the money for the dog, but don't want to take it back if the owners can't keep it. They come from people that get a puppy and want to "recoup" their "investment". Shelter dogs also come from people that want a puppy as a new play-pretty for the kids and they, quite frankly, don't care what the kids do to it. When the dog snaps, suddenly he is "vicious". Then there are the people that get rid of a dog because he is "too old", or they have a new baby. This pisses me off, especially when responsible breeders get blamed for it. Then there are the people that couldn't train a dog if their life depended on it and they won't listen to ANY advice, or they seem to and them repeat the same mistakes they made thus reinforcing the bad behavior. I teach a training/puppy socialization class.

Now...purebreds vs. mixed breeds...
I want a purebred because I LOVE THIS BREED!!! I rescued the cutest mixed-breed puppy years ago and gave her to a friend. This dog grew up to be the fugliest dog you have ever seen with some strange personality quirks. If she were purebred, I would know WHAT she is going to look like when she grows up and probably would have had some clue to her personality. If people want a rescue (I often recommend rescue to people looking for a specific breed) or a mix, THAT IS FINE!!!! I LOVE LOVE!!! my Afs. I don't want any other breed even though I like ALL dogs. The rescue dogs that I have kept (I keep some of the old ones so that they can live out their life getting all the perks the show dogs do) ARE wonderful critters. They ARE grateful. One I kept was hilarious with a pile of toys because he had NEVER seen toys. He dived right in the middle and threw toys everywhere. It was GREAT.

This discussion will be hashed and rehashed until doomsday. AR wants ALL animals and animal use gone and they are very good at propaganda. Those commercials? From China. From Mexico.AKC will be on you like stink on shit if you have any cruelty charges brought against you. One prominent breeder that had been wonderful for years had a nervous breakdown and started neglecting her dogs. She is GONE. FOREVER. AKC keeps good breeders in perpetual fear because they WILL come after you.

Once again, I LOVE my dogs MORE THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW. I also like steak, cheese, wool, leather and I am NOT prepared to give any of that up for (A)nimal (R)ights. All animals deserve a decent life, but going after people that are trying to do things right will only move them to the other side.

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K&R for this important bit of news. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2014 #1
k&r LiberalEsto Feb 2014 #2
Recommend jsr Feb 2014 #3
Important information here. LeftOfWest Feb 2014 #4
Perhaps as a requirement to receive a pedigreed dog, one must efhmc Feb 2014 #5
Why should a home-based breeder of labs, for instance, have to find homes pnwmom Feb 2014 #17
Oh, how far the AKC has fallen. Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #6
That is why . . . Brigid Feb 2014 #9
How many years ago was this? jmowreader Feb 2014 #42
My memories of the way that the AKC operated Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #49
The one in question just seemed to be a guy who bred his own hunting dog jmowreader Feb 2014 #51
Like the NAIA, they TRY to look like they're for the betterment flvegan Feb 2014 #7
Years ago, when the dog pound in my city carried unwanted or feral pets in the open, and you could freshwest Feb 2014 #8
You made me cry about that healthy kitten. Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #11
I can not let this BS pass without a comment copperearth Feb 2014 #10
I don't think the OP was a condemnation of all breeders. Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #12
Over my years around AKC dogs and dog shows. I've see the AKC inspect kennels and know Sunlei Feb 2014 #30
I remember when I was young, several years ago, Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #31
They have 'limited registration' now. Sunlei Feb 2014 #32
I spent a lot of time reading about buying dogs BainsBane Feb 2014 #14
+1 nt pnwmom Feb 2014 #18
What breeds and how many litters per year for those 41 years? flvegan Feb 2014 #15
But still you can't deny that for every dog your sold another dog that had to put to death Maraya1969 Feb 2014 #16
You still can't prove that if you deny a person the right to buy the lab puppy he wants pnwmom Feb 2014 #19
Why would he not want the pure bred from the pound? For one thing the pure bred Maraya1969 Feb 2014 #27
Because the pound, at least in my large city, has very few dogs available -- and almost no puppies. pnwmom Feb 2014 #34
Petfinder shows over 15,000 young labs and lab mixes available in the Seattle area. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #36
Those dogs are NOT all in the Seattle area, they're across the WHOLE COUNTRY! pnwmom Feb 2014 #38
Oh sorry, no default distance. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #39
Not 100 in Seattle. One hundred within 100 miles. Most people don't go that far to get a dog. pnwmom Feb 2014 #40
And I have known AKC breeders nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #22
We got our Sheltie, Jessie, from a breeder, and I have to disagree about "loving the fees." ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #28
The Humane society of the US is a good charity - as per Charity Navigator Maraya1969 Feb 2014 #23
Show kennels breed dogs to meet arbitrary beauty standards to the detriment of their health. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #37
Thank you for being so civil, you're a better person than I. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #43
The Humane Society's main mission is to prevent animal cruelty Progressive dog Feb 2014 #47
NEVER buy from a breeder! MoonRiver Feb 2014 #13
You do understand that most rescue dogs originally came from puppy mills, right? pnwmom Feb 2014 #20
Unfortunately the puppy mill dogs need us. We do not need more breeders. Maraya1969 Feb 2014 #24
I disagree. We need responsible breeders instead of puppy mills. pnwmom Feb 2014 #33
always buy from the breeder reddread Feb 2014 #26
Only buy if you wish a shelter or rescue dog to die. n/t flvegan Feb 2014 #35
what a silly remark reddread Feb 2014 #45
Good to know. I have a non-AKC registered mixed breed that came from a small, responsible breeder. pnwmom Feb 2014 #21
It is sad to hear that.....................nt Enthusiast Feb 2014 #25
AKC is just a registry, pedigree service.They put on dog shows, train judges, track breed standards. Sunlei Feb 2014 #29
Nothing but shelter dogs for me truebluegreen Feb 2014 #41
Here we go again yourpicturehere Feb 2014 #44
thank you reddread Feb 2014 #46
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!nt yourpicturehere Feb 2014 #48
I wrote a large rant, but then I thought better. hunter Feb 2014 #50
You bet the AKC is into puppy mills. defacto7 Feb 2014 #52
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