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Chan790

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17. Yes, absolutely...but...

Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:23 PM

Feb 2014

there is more benefit in drafting him only slightly higher than the next person who might draft him.

It's unfortunate but this will hurt his draft position and thus his earnings. It probably makes him undraftable for about half the teams in the league (The NFL has a serious institutionalized homophobia problem from fans to locker rooms to front offices. There are only a handful of teams where there would be no issue IMO.)...which means for the teams that would take him, he would be available later than he would be if he was straight.

My estimation--the Pats grab him in the 4th round because they think someone else would grab him before they had a chance in the 5th round. New England is a perfectly liberal place where nobody is going to give a shit if he's gay; all anybody in Foxboro cares about is if he wins football games for them.

Before this, he was projecting to a late 2nd to high 3rd. Right there, homophobia probably just cost him 1M in signing bonuses. I've seen the kid play...someone is getting a steal. He'll be an above-average pass-rusher at the NFL level as either a DE or weakside up OLB.

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Is there a financial benefit to drafting Sam... [View all] Lost_Count Feb 2014 OP

I'd say that since he's confident enough in himself to the point he feels he can come out madokie Feb 2014 #1

It will be interesting to see what this does to his draft standing. malthaussen Feb 2014 #2

I agree... clarice Feb 2014 #3

I guess we'll see won't we madokie Feb 2014 #4

But his self-worth is irrelevant to how others might see his worth... malthaussen Feb 2014 #5

You can make an argument though that a confident player is more likely to be a winning player el_bryanto Feb 2014 #11

Sure, you can make that argument. malthaussen Feb 2014 #13

Did you see Moneyball? or read it? Interesting book el_bryanto Feb 2014 #14

Been on my list awhile, but haven't gotten to it. malthaussen Feb 2014 #15

There will be the mother of all media storms if this kid doesn't get drafted. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #38

How he plays yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #9

With his confidence in himself madokie Feb 2014 #10

Such Wisdom you have yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #18

we know how you feel about gays CreekDog Feb 2014 #6

It would really tickle me... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #8

Well, I guess you dont know as much as you thought... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #23

I know you posted a thread saying there are negatives associated with signing a gay player who's out CreekDog Feb 2014 #24

There are multiple potential negatives associated with it... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #25

but all those things you mention could apply to a straight player CreekDog Feb 2014 #32

Wow... You really do think that... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #34

some people don't like to be around Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, or Baptists, or atheists CreekDog Feb 2014 #36

Remember what I said about the big boy table... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #37

It sounds like the subject makes you uncomfortable CreekDog Feb 2014 #40

1) You're stealing my lines... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #41

so it sounds like you would have been against black players entering professional sports CreekDog Feb 2014 #42

I know .. I know... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #43

i'm surprised you haven't talked about the "shower" issue CreekDog Feb 2014 #44

Why dont you enlighten the rest of the room... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #46

in your line of work, do you see gays as a negative? CreekDog Feb 2014 #7

you mean like if he's good enough to help them win the Super Bowl? uh yeah. Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #12

gays coming out in the military didn't harm the military CreekDog Feb 2014 #16

Still waiting... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #20

Yes, absolutely...but... Chan790 Feb 2014 #17

Good breakdown... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #19

if his draft position drops as a result of him coming out, the NFL should fix that CreekDog Feb 2014 #22

Unless we assume some front office personnel are also Gay. Motown_Johnny Feb 2014 #45

49ers have 11 picks in the draft. karadax Feb 2014 #21

Meh. I don't like the symbolism. Gay people are everywhere; not just in SF. Smarmie Doofus Feb 2014 #28

If (and only if) he plays well, hells yeah. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2014 #26

If he's picked and he's not really, really good justiceischeap Feb 2014 #27

Only by those ignorant Ruby the Liberal Feb 2014 #29

It's the ignorant people that concern me and seem to have the biggest mouthpiece justiceischeap Feb 2014 #31

I think that's a good explanation... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #30

I like the endorsements side of it. He's charming, good looking and comes across well to cameras. libdem4life Feb 2014 #39

The benefits will be based on his game play. dilby Feb 2014 #33

Assuming that his game translates well to the NFL, Maedhros Feb 2014 #35