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Gothmog

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28. As predicted, the NJ committee is seeking to enforce subpoenas
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 07:32 PM
Feb 2014

The next step in the process is to seek to enforce the subpoenas on the grounds that the legal objections are not valid http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/nj-bridge-committee-subpoena-objections-invalid

According to comments made by some of the members once they returned to open session, special counsel Reid Schar briefed the members on the constitutionality of Kelly and Stepien's objections during the closed session.

Once they returned to open session, the committee approved three motions related to Kelly's objection. The first declared the "books, papers, correspondence, and other documents and materials" requested from Kelly to be "necessary" to the investigation. The second motion deemed her objection "invalid. Finally, the third motion compelled the production of the materials requested from Kelly "on a day to be determined by special counsel." All three motions were approved, with the four Republicans on the committee abstaining and the eight Democrats voting yes.

After the motions on Kelly, the committee voted on identical motions concerning the subpoena sent to Stepien. Those three motions were also approved with the four committee Republican committee members abstaining.

For the reasons stated on this thread, I think that the Committee should win these motions and force production. The Act of Production and the Testimony by Production concepts do not apply when the government knows about the existence of the documents in question. In this case, we know that the witnesses used e-mails from private accounts and that these e-mails covered material relevant to the investigation. There will be a court fight but I think that Kelly and Septien will lose this fight.

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Nice try. nt Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #1
uh, what? markpkessinger Feb 2014 #2
Stepien's lawyer. Sorry! nt Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #5
No problem -- thanks for clarifying! n/t markpkessinger Feb 2014 #6
I am not an attorney but I saw several on my TV last night DURHAM D Feb 2014 #3
That makes sense. n/t markpkessinger Feb 2014 #4
I worked in the legal biz for almost 30 years Blue_In_AK Feb 2014 #7
There has been a subpoena Gothmog Feb 2014 #10
And, girlfriend is in a trick bag ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #18
Don't you remember all the subpoenas refused from the Bush* cronies and even Sarah Palin Bandit Feb 2014 #31
Testimony by Production is a hard argument to win Gothmog Feb 2014 #8
There has been some recent opinions on this issue with respect to off-shore accounts Gothmog Feb 2014 #9
Just playing the "friendly advocate" ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #19
love love LOVE threads with lawyer input Skittles Feb 2014 #11
if my employers asks for information, can i invoke the 5th? spanone Feb 2014 #12
5th is only for criminal matters Gothmog Feb 2014 #14
interesting. spanone Feb 2014 #16
Which was pretty much how HUAC was able to find contempt... malthaussen Feb 2014 #29
The Constitution/Bill of Rights protects you from the government, not private individuals Trekologer Feb 2014 #17
Lets ask Gardner? Historic NY Feb 2014 #13
The 5th amendment does not generally work against the IRS Gothmog Feb 2014 #15
I.e., ... the Required Records Doctrine? eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #20
Do you think Christie will try to claim executive privilege or work product? Just curious. nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #22
He Will Absolutelty Claim... Laxman Feb 2014 #23
Thanks for that. nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #24
He Is Stalling... Laxman Feb 2014 #21
The danger is to Kelly. She is the defendant and Stepien is her lawyer. JimDandy Feb 2014 #25
I don't think it applies to document production. Lex Feb 2014 #26
Here is a good explanation of the Act of Production doctrine Gothmog Feb 2014 #27
As predicted, the NJ committee is seeking to enforce subpoenas Gothmog Feb 2014 #28
It's worth it.. sendero Feb 2014 #30
Septien's lawyer wants to go to court to litigate these subpoenas Gothmog Feb 2014 #32
Thanks for the update and commentary! n/t markpkessinger Feb 2014 #33
There will be a hearing on privilege issue Gothmog Mar 2014 #34
Thanks for the update! n/t markpkessinger Mar 2014 #35
Does anyone have any links to the briefs filed for tomorrow's hearing? Gothmog Mar 2014 #36
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