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Luminous Animal

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48. They would have done one 15 minute segment and that would have been that.

Mon Feb 10, 2014, 11:55 PM

Feb 2014

It would have been a very poor outcome from his trove of information.

The NY Times has had the Guardian docs for many months now and have published very little

Snowden was very smart in entrusting the docs to Gellman, Patrois and Greenwald. All independent and all fierce critics of the surveillance state.

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Would Snowden be looked at differently if he went to 60 Minutes with the information he took? [View all] Renew Deal Feb 2014 OP

Yes everything would be different. Rex Feb 2014 #1

Yep. Everything sure would be different. eom DonViejo Feb 2014 #30

It would, he would be in jail and the material would not have been published. sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #51

Exactly, even Dr. King wasn't held incommunicado. reusrename Feb 2014 #54

Well, he was *one* of the most "dangerous" political prisoners of that century, at least Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #58

Aha, yes. And it reinforces my point very well. reusrename Feb 2014 #62

You hit the nail on the head, Sabrina 1. Th1onein Feb 2014 #57

I think one thing that made up his mind for him, was how Manning was treated. Rex Feb 2014 #63

Absolutely IMO n/t Still Sensible Feb 2014 #2

60 Minutes is co-opted by the propagandists, and that's a fact riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #3

The Benghazi report is the exact opposite situation Renew Deal Feb 2014 #7

He'd never have made it on air. That network would have alerted their masters riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #16

He would still be charged with espionage, he had channels to use if he thought there was illegal Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #4

I think the password tricks he played would have gotten him in trouble. Renew Deal Feb 2014 #9

He played no games nor did he trick anyone. That's a lie. riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #18

He divulged the information he acquired from the NSA, this is not a game, this is serious. Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #22

Take up your quibble with Renew Deal who accused Snowden of playing tricks. nt riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #24

what do you mean quibble Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #35

Renew Deal believes Snowden was playing tricks. I don't. Neither do you obviously riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #36

Read my post # 22 again, it is not a game, charges of espionage is serious. Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #39

I've already said I agree 100%. I'm not sure why you continue to badger me nt riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #47

Thanks for the link Renew Deal Feb 2014 #25

If he had conducted himself in that manner he arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #5

Security is exempt from whistle blower act. what he was a crime, plain and simply. Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #33

What Daniel Ellsberg did was security too and arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #37

Even Ellsberg says the times are different and Snowden has no chance of justice riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #41

The times are different, how? Just curious about arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #42

Read Ellsberg's own words. Don't take me as the expert... riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #43

Even Dr. King was never held incommunicado. reusrename Feb 2014 #53

because USA is a true fascist authoritarian state now. PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #59

Yup. A crime because NSA whistleblowers have no avenues to report federal crimes riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #38

Workers in the NSA has avenues in which to report activities in which they feel are nor correct, Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #49

In my eyes, yes. It worked for Woodward and Bernstein. I think what they revealed is way worse than okaawhatever Feb 2014 #6

BTW, I think that's partly why the individual leaks haven't had a big impact. Renew Deal Feb 2014 #10

The PTB profit from the NSA's real goal - economic imperialism riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #26

Woodward and Bernstein were journalists revealing the leak. Like Greenwald and Poitras riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #15

Okay, let's say it worked for deep throat. Point being, snowden didn't even have to steal all the okaawhatever Feb 2014 #17

Snowden did pass the info on to journalists. They did take it from there. riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #19

No Snowden stole over one million pages of documentation and took that to a foreign country. That is okaawhatever Feb 2014 #21

He took nothing to foreign countries. That's a lie too. riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #23

The NSA has no idea what he copied. (Not stole - copied) They believe he had ACCESS Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #45

I would look at him as stupid if he had done that. Vattel Feb 2014 #8

Is he really "free" Renew Deal Feb 2014 #11

True, his freedom is restricted, but he would be less free in prison. Vattel Feb 2014 #12

He'd be silenced in prison. Disappeared. At least now he has a chance of speaking out riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #14

Exactly right! Cheers Vattel Feb 2014 #20

that is such baloney treestar Feb 2014 #55

He would be in prison, of course, and that would affect image cthulu2016 Feb 2014 #13

what is the point of releasing things like UK, Australia spying ? JI7 Feb 2014 #27

The UK and Australia are part of our "5 eyes program" of mutual spying riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #31

yes, about our spying on CHina but nothing on what china does JI7 Feb 2014 #32

Really? You haven't read ANYTHING about Chinese industrial espionage riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #34

Our mutual spying arrangements are with the UK & Australia... that is, they are active Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #46

I would certainly respect him more. I want my country improved, not destroyed... Hekate Feb 2014 #28

You mean the network that threw Rather under the bus? 1000words Feb 2014 #29

It's not about Snowden. It's about the crimes the NSA is commiting. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #40

To be honest, I do think it would have made a difference in my perception. KittyWampus Feb 2014 #44

They would have done one 15 minute segment and that would have been that. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #48

How about 60 Minutes goes to him? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #50

I think some people who dislike him know would probably prefer he did the scenario you laid out. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #52

Yup, not at all or rebranded as "terrorist". TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #56

He'd still have problems because of the amount of info he took that is not JoePhilly Feb 2014 #60

No... sendero Feb 2014 #61