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55. that is such baloney

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Tue Feb 11, 2014, 01:31 AM

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Would Snowden be looked at differently if he went to 60 Minutes with the information he took? [View all] Renew Deal Feb 2014 OP

Yes everything would be different. Rex Feb 2014 #1

Yep. Everything sure would be different. eom DonViejo Feb 2014 #30

It would, he would be in jail and the material would not have been published. sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #51

Exactly, even Dr. King wasn't held incommunicado. reusrename Feb 2014 #54

Well, he was *one* of the most "dangerous" political prisoners of that century, at least Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #58

Aha, yes. And it reinforces my point very well. reusrename Feb 2014 #62

You hit the nail on the head, Sabrina 1. Th1onein Feb 2014 #57

I think one thing that made up his mind for him, was how Manning was treated. Rex Feb 2014 #63

Absolutely IMO n/t Still Sensible Feb 2014 #2

60 Minutes is co-opted by the propagandists, and that's a fact riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #3

The Benghazi report is the exact opposite situation Renew Deal Feb 2014 #7

He'd never have made it on air. That network would have alerted their masters riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #16

He would still be charged with espionage, he had channels to use if he thought there was illegal Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #4

I think the password tricks he played would have gotten him in trouble. Renew Deal Feb 2014 #9

He played no games nor did he trick anyone. That's a lie. riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #18

He divulged the information he acquired from the NSA, this is not a game, this is serious. Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #22

Take up your quibble with Renew Deal who accused Snowden of playing tricks. nt riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #24

what do you mean quibble Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #35

Renew Deal believes Snowden was playing tricks. I don't. Neither do you obviously riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #36

Read my post # 22 again, it is not a game, charges of espionage is serious. Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #39

I've already said I agree 100%. I'm not sure why you continue to badger me nt riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #47

Thanks for the link Renew Deal Feb 2014 #25

If he had conducted himself in that manner he arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #5

Security is exempt from whistle blower act. what he was a crime, plain and simply. Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #33

What Daniel Ellsberg did was security too and arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #37

Even Ellsberg says the times are different and Snowden has no chance of justice riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #41

The times are different, how? Just curious about arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #42

Read Ellsberg's own words. Don't take me as the expert... riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #43

Even Dr. King was never held incommunicado. reusrename Feb 2014 #53

because USA is a true fascist authoritarian state now. PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #59

Yup. A crime because NSA whistleblowers have no avenues to report federal crimes riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #38

Workers in the NSA has avenues in which to report activities in which they feel are nor correct, Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #49

In my eyes, yes. It worked for Woodward and Bernstein. I think what they revealed is way worse than okaawhatever Feb 2014 #6

BTW, I think that's partly why the individual leaks haven't had a big impact. Renew Deal Feb 2014 #10

The PTB profit from the NSA's real goal - economic imperialism riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #26

Woodward and Bernstein were journalists revealing the leak. Like Greenwald and Poitras riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #15

Okay, let's say it worked for deep throat. Point being, snowden didn't even have to steal all the okaawhatever Feb 2014 #17

Snowden did pass the info on to journalists. They did take it from there. riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #19

No Snowden stole over one million pages of documentation and took that to a foreign country. That is okaawhatever Feb 2014 #21

He took nothing to foreign countries. That's a lie too. riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #23

The NSA has no idea what he copied. (Not stole - copied) They believe he had ACCESS Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #45

I would look at him as stupid if he had done that. Vattel Feb 2014 #8

Is he really "free" Renew Deal Feb 2014 #11

True, his freedom is restricted, but he would be less free in prison. Vattel Feb 2014 #12

He'd be silenced in prison. Disappeared. At least now he has a chance of speaking out riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #14

Exactly right! Cheers Vattel Feb 2014 #20

that is such baloney treestar Feb 2014 #55

He would be in prison, of course, and that would affect image cthulu2016 Feb 2014 #13

what is the point of releasing things like UK, Australia spying ? JI7 Feb 2014 #27

The UK and Australia are part of our "5 eyes program" of mutual spying riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #31

yes, about our spying on CHina but nothing on what china does JI7 Feb 2014 #32

Really? You haven't read ANYTHING about Chinese industrial espionage riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #34

Our mutual spying arrangements are with the UK & Australia... that is, they are active Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #46

I would certainly respect him more. I want my country improved, not destroyed... Hekate Feb 2014 #28

You mean the network that threw Rather under the bus? 1000words Feb 2014 #29

It's not about Snowden. It's about the crimes the NSA is commiting. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #40

To be honest, I do think it would have made a difference in my perception. KittyWampus Feb 2014 #44

They would have done one 15 minute segment and that would have been that. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #48

How about 60 Minutes goes to him? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #50

I think some people who dislike him know would probably prefer he did the scenario you laid out. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #52

Yup, not at all or rebranded as "terrorist". TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #56

He'd still have problems because of the amount of info he took that is not JoePhilly Feb 2014 #60

No... sendero Feb 2014 #61