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233. By the way, the 90% statistic is VERY misleading
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 06:30 AM
Feb 2014

It's like saying 40% of Americans ca speak German because they can say "Ich bin ein Berliner."

It's true that many Germans, especially in the west, have had German in school and know a few words. But "speak" it? Maybe 15% of Germans on the street can really hold an intelligent conversation, almost all of them under the age of 30. In the east, the old "socialist" part, where the second language taught in schools was Russian until 1990, far less people know English well, and people over 40 often know none at all.

Most Germans will know a few rudimentary words of English, but that no more constitutes speaking it than my "Konban-wa. O cha kudasai" in a Japanese restaurant means I can speak Japanese (I can't, but my accent is good. Boku-wa gai-jin desu).

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My native language is Estonian LiberalEsto Feb 2014 #1
German (I was born and lived there) gopiscrap Feb 2014 #2
Isn't speaking different languages fun? And you sure do! JDPriestly Feb 2014 #71
So do they really speak that much English? hfojvt Feb 2014 #110
Depends. Maybe it's an age thing? historylovr Feb 2014 #153
when I left Germany most of my cousins could speak speak pretty good English gopiscrap Feb 2014 #203
It's still pretty different between east and west Germany. wickerwoman Feb 2014 #172
I agree. They speak English like most Americans speak Spanish. MADem Feb 2014 #188
A lot of Germans speak really good English. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #206
Well, I haven't been to Germany in many years, nearly twenty. MADem Feb 2014 #209
Someone found another source that gave a much lower figure. I was surprised at 90% JDPriestly Feb 2014 #219
I think the whole world knows "a little English!" MADem Feb 2014 #230
Germany is a pretty big country, so German is the default option eridani Feb 2014 #221
nobody seemed to initiate conversations with me hfojvt Feb 2014 #224
That's because the signs are too small to fit "Halten Sie an!" n/t DFW Feb 2014 #234
Spanish nt oldhippie Feb 2014 #3
Also…. Tikki Feb 2014 #55
Hablo español también. phylny Feb 2014 #286
French Earth_First Feb 2014 #4
Me too Aerows Feb 2014 #74
French, read it better than speak it, go figure..LOL.. monmouth3 Feb 2014 #5
German alcibiades_mystery Feb 2014 #6
Spanish and Thai. eom DonViejo Feb 2014 #7
Show off! Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #9
LOL. Sorry 'bout that... DonViejo Feb 2014 #14
You'd think living in California all my life Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #17
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I'm a speech-language pathologist working in early intervention. phylny Feb 2014 #287
You are doing well, when my fatigue level goes up I can't even speak. Downwinder Feb 2014 #41
Oh, I have times like that too... DonViejo Feb 2014 #43
My temporary registers disappear. Downwinder Feb 2014 #49
Street and academia. Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #8
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Someone who speaks three or more languages is called "multi-lingual" ... Scuba Feb 2014 #11
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Sarcasm. Neoma Feb 2014 #12
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Spanish nt newfie11 Feb 2014 #16
Been trying to teach myself Japanese LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #18
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I know LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #251
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German. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #25
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g'day mate! treestar Feb 2014 #95
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Struth? HeiressofBickworth Feb 2014 #193
French. nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #27
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Philly. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #31
That's a hard one, I've heard. nt Common Sense Party Feb 2014 #38
Took me years to master. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #47
Isn't the Brooklynese? Historic NY Feb 2014 #121
Love the video. I wonder whether she also has one for Southern accents. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #210
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my mother and her family are from there treestar Feb 2014 #285
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Catalan, Swedish, Dutch, Russian, German, Schwyzerdüütsch, French, Italian, Spanish DFW Feb 2014 #32
Impressive list treestar Feb 2014 #97
Otherwise known as "Swiss German" DFW Feb 2014 #187
He lives in Europe. Beacool Feb 2014 #254
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I'm not sure. Beacool Feb 2014 #267
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Occupational hazard DFW Feb 2014 #186
French. nt el_bryanto Feb 2014 #33
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German ... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #137
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Arabic and French. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #35
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English as first language Half-Century Man Feb 2014 #44
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Sadly,... 3catwoman3 Feb 2014 #50
Dutch. BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #51
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Tagalog - from the Peace Corps in the Philippines. n/t pampango Feb 2014 #59
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Boontling. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #60
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espanol KamaAina Feb 2014 #63
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try to learn un poco de espanol... dionysus Feb 2014 #68
Son. bravenak Feb 2014 #157
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French shenmue Feb 2014 #76
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Profanity...in several languages. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #80
Uckfay Ouyay (I speak it in Pig Latin) Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #82
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Hilarious. Was your teacher a native English speaker? JDPriestly Feb 2014 #226
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I like to learn the ETYMOLOGY of profanity. kentauros Feb 2014 #149
Well. That was thorough. Didn't miss a detail. Interesting. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #194
Hablo espanol. bravenak Feb 2014 #81
FORTRAN. n/t malthaussen Feb 2014 #87
No BASIC? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #107
Not fluently.:) I learned FORTRAN before BASIC. n/t malthaussen Feb 2014 #112
I used to know a little COBOL. kentauros Feb 2014 #150
German KansDem Feb 2014 #89
Then we were neighbors. Almost. I was in Austria at that time. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #195
I was amazed to learn Switzerland has four national lanugues... KansDem Feb 2014 #289
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A little German. My kids are fluent in Spanish, though. cyberswede Feb 2014 #98
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The genders for nouns... 3catwoman3 Feb 2014 #129
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Can do Spanish treestar Feb 2014 #99
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Kiswahili? DFW Feb 2014 #272
Habari gani? treestar Feb 2014 #280
Just fine, thanks! DFW Feb 2014 #284
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I speak a language from the Germanic language group The Second Stone Feb 2014 #102
French Autumn Colors Feb 2014 #108
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Spanish. savalez Feb 2014 #109
I'm from the south. My second language is English. nt rrneck Feb 2014 #117
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Spanish and passable in the other Romance languages. lpbk2713 Feb 2014 #124
Norwegian nt cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #128
+1 jeg også n/r FreeState Feb 2014 #177
... cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #232
Jeg også snakker litt norsk Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #179
Gamle folk blir så glade når cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #231
Hei! Jeg visste ikke at du snakket norsk. KitSileya Feb 2014 #247
Joda, må jo kunne det. ;) cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #248
Det er ganske komplisert. KitSileya Feb 2014 #269
Jeg er ikke norsk, men DFW Feb 2014 #273
Kitchen Spanish trust me that's a language. As well as italian Arcanetrance Feb 2014 #131
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Sorry ... lpbk2713 Feb 2014 #143
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English and Bad English MrScorpio Feb 2014 #140
German and French. closeupready Feb 2014 #142
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Well they did lose the war. dilby Feb 2014 #145
Some Japanese, a lil Hebrew sakabatou Feb 2014 #147
over 95% of Americans speak English. We win!! Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #151
C, C++, Java, Python, C#..... jeff47 Feb 2014 #152
German and Japanese spinbaby Feb 2014 #154
Fluent Spanish. Passable French and Italian. Barely intelligible Mandarin. Xithras Feb 2014 #155
a little german MFM008 Feb 2014 #156
German RichGirl Feb 2014 #161
German. kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #162
Spanish .use almost daily... grew up understanding a little german, slovak, italian xiamiam Feb 2014 #163
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Low ACTFL B1 Italian Drahthaardogs Feb 2014 #167
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German. n/t kiranon Feb 2014 #170
Russian AnnieBW Feb 2014 #174
Thai grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #175
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I speak to people in India, China, Brazil, Argentina, Viet Nam, Mexico, etc Skittles Feb 2014 #184
Euskera and Afrikaans Wolf Frankula Feb 2014 #185
Zuec Euskera aitxutendosue? DFW Feb 2014 #271
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American. Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #189
Perl mindwalker_i Feb 2014 #191
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Spanish. Agschmid Feb 2014 #211
French in high school but I wish I would have taken German neverforget Feb 2014 #214
French, Spanish and German burrowowl Feb 2014 #215
Lousy schoolbook German eridani Feb 2014 #220
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See #135 for a Eurobarometer report muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #239
I live in Germany, believe me, I know better than any statistic DFW Feb 2014 #241
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Spanish and learning French. Nt a la izquierda Feb 2014 #237
Southern. nt Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #240
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Ich kann nur ein bisschen Deutsch UncleMuscles Feb 2014 #244
Norwegian, French, Italian, learning Japanese KitSileya Feb 2014 #245
What foreign language do you speak? MMcGuire Feb 2014 #246
Fluently, Spanish. Beacool Feb 2014 #259
French and Spanish aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2014 #266
None, I'm an idiot get the red out Feb 2014 #276
Nothing that counts even as conversational... MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #278
What do you call a person who speaks three languages? Demobrat Feb 2014 #279
Spanish, to an extent. WatermelonRat Feb 2014 #281
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