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ellisonz

(27,776 posts)
49. But the likelihood thereof...
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 08:36 PM
Mar 2012

...is substantially reduced according to numerous lawyers and legal experts.

Text of the law: From the Florida Legislature

(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.


You might reasonable claim that in the most abstract legal sense focused on the narrowest application, but in practice, my statement is sociologically correct.

Yes, yes, but all the experts are wrong:

'Stand your ground' law goes too far
7:49 p.m. EST, March 19, 2012|Beth Kassab

You can't say we weren't warned.

Back in 2005, opponents of Florida's first-of-its-kind "stand your ground" law said it wouldn't be long before we'd see shootouts in the streets — all in the name of self-defense.

Arguments over something as trivial as exceeding the 10-item limit in a grocery store's express lane could escalate to deadly violence.

Prodded by their NRA masters, lawmakers waved off those predictions as exaggerations. Then they overwhelmingly passed a bill that took the "castle doctrine" to infinity and beyond. The "castle doctrine" used to mean you could use deadly force if someone attacked you in your home. "Stand your ground" not only absolved the homeowner of any obligation to retreat, it extended that concept outside the home.

More: Orlando Sentinel Story

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This was a modern day lynching NNN0LHI Mar 2012 #1
Well I was thinking it but yeah I know what you mean LynneSin Mar 2012 #3
Florida's stand-your-ground law... ellisonz Mar 2012 #23
Yes because I always feel threatened by those people who run away from me LynneSin Mar 2012 #24
The police show-up... ellisonz Mar 2012 #30
That's just warped LynneSin Mar 2012 #34
Well it's the way it's been... ellisonz Mar 2012 #37
Not true.. The burden to justify deadly force remained the same ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #48
But the likelihood thereof... ellisonz Mar 2012 #49
Its not a SYG issue and justification for the use of deadly force still needs to met. ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #51
Eliminating the duty to retreat is changing the whole equation... ellisonz Mar 2012 #52
I cannot nor should not ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #53
Yes, all the media is just hyping... ellisonz Mar 2012 #54
Media is always looking for ratings and some for an excuse to push agendas ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #55
Even the friendly media... ellisonz Mar 2012 #56
Odd to see you supporting Zimmerman ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #57
I'm not supporting Zimmerman in any way. I don't know where you're getting that from at all. ellisonz Mar 2012 #58
I can see no rational justification for not charging him, based on the data available ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #59
Here's why the haven't arrested Zimmerman. iscooterliberally Mar 2012 #32
Emmett Till in the xxqqqzme Mar 2012 #6
That's exacty what I've been calling this, the "Emmett Till" liberalhistorian Mar 2012 #31
100% agree with you! eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2012 #10
sadly, yes handmade34 Mar 2012 #21
That is exactly my feeling on the matter ecstatic Mar 2012 #46
From what I've read, neighborhood watch members a NOT to be armed. That's shraby Mar 2012 #2
Well, apparently, the national organization does not have him, or his "group" ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #4
racism and gun-nuttery. a two-fer! KG Mar 2012 #5
You summed up Florida after Republican failed policies perfectly. eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2012 #11
Unfortunately there are millions of Zimmermans out there. appleannie1 Mar 2012 #13
Bet if you checked into his background tularetom Mar 2012 #7
He called police all the time Rex Mar 2012 #8
I'm wondering if he has an in-law either working for the police or the DA. n/t gkhouston Mar 2012 #18
Must have someone on the inside imo. Rex Mar 2012 #27
My county has a 'good old boy' mentality duhneece Mar 2012 #35
He was previously charged with a felony assault on an officer EmeraldCityGrl Mar 2012 #41
He called police 46 times. savalez Mar 2012 #42
unfortunately having the gun on him broke no law, but the guy was going against watch rules WI_DEM Mar 2012 #9
I can't believe any state would give an idiot like George Zimmerman a permit to carry LynneSin Mar 2012 #15
+1000 nt abelenkpe Mar 2012 #20
He would have passed the background check... ellisonz Mar 2012 #25
well, why not? he hadn't murdered anybody... KG Mar 2012 #26
You can keep a gun in your car in Florida HockeyMom Mar 2012 #12
His dream has come true. He'll be around more cops than he ever dreamed of. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #14
Just A Murderous Little Wanna-Be Prowling Nightly For Someone To Shoot, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2012 #16
Yes because we need more people like that in the country.... LynneSin Mar 2012 #17
Why can't this post be rec'd? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #19
Worked for me. sinkingfeeling Mar 2012 #22
Florida has been steadily turning red. The Backlash Cometh Mar 2012 #28
I have no problem with them carrying a personal firearm TorchTheWitch Mar 2012 #29
NRA/GOP/Fox News influence. onehandle Mar 2012 #33
If you want details, Amy did her whole hour on it this morning. EFerrari Mar 2012 #36
THE POLICE TOLD HIM NOT TO FOLLOW BUT HE DID ANY WAY leftyohiolib Mar 2012 #38
POLICE DID NOT TELL HIM ANYTHING (why are you yelling?) ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #50
didnt realize caps were on till i switch to typing in the big box- i thought 911 was staffed by leftyohiolib Mar 2012 #60
I heard he had a license for concealed weapon marlakay Mar 2012 #39
Just because one has a license should not mean they get the legal upper hand. savalez Mar 2012 #44
He'll go to prison... TeeYiYi Mar 2012 #40
He'll go to jail but no thanks to the local authorities LynneSin Mar 2012 #45
I want to know EC Mar 2012 #43
Like NNN0LHI said, it was a lynching... countryjake Mar 2012 #47
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