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Ms. Toad

(38,692 posts)
20. You can consistently count on minimum wage,
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 11:17 AM
Feb 2014

Because the law requires the employer to make up the difference if the restaurant is not full, or you had crappy tables which did not tip. And in many restaurants (as noted) on a regular basis you make more.

That said, I think it is a lousy system - and waitstaff should be paid a living wage, and restaurants should charge what it takes to pay that wage. (But - every time I say that, it doesn't take very long for some waitstaff to chime in that they don't want to go to to straight hourly.)

A system which leaves everything to chance, and to the honesty of waitstaff in reporting tips to their employer and the IRS - and to the employer who (as noted below) can blatantly violate the law by requiring his staff to report tips they haven't received or (I'm sure is the implication) be fired, and shifts the employer's burden to pay its employees to patrons of the establishment stinks, and is an invitation to game the system. When, as inevitably happens, people do game the system it creates both resentment at the gaming - and (rightfully) outrage that the system which is structured so that it needs to be gamed in order to make a living.

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It is a problem in some restaurants pipoman Feb 2014 #1
Well that can happen el_bryanto Feb 2014 #2
We don't share tips with anyone pipoman Feb 2014 #3
You can consistently count on minimum wage, Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #20
And your restaraunt isn't typical. marble falls Feb 2014 #9
It's been true in most states as recently as Oct. 2011 PotatoChip Feb 2014 #23
The problem is that Congress also works for tips and the ones tipping them don't tip anyone else Fumesucker Feb 2014 #4
+1 Scuba Feb 2014 #5
+1 daleanime Feb 2014 #6
This is why I always overtip (according to people who go out with me) Bettie Feb 2014 #7
I have a collection of $0 pay checks. I've had owners tell me how much tips I had to declare.... marble falls Feb 2014 #8
Assuming you did not make the amount you were told to declare, Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #14
I have always declared my income accurately. That means my social security check is a lot .... marble falls Feb 2014 #28
On those dead nights, Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #29
Yep. My employers broke whatever laws their lobbiests couldn't get sweetened. And I watched .... marble falls Feb 2014 #31
I know the financial reality - Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #33
thanks for helping us all out, she who cares for my brother takes care of me. marble falls Feb 2014 #34
Yes it is, and that brings us to the next topic. Just try to have those laws enforced. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #35
Yup. Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #36
Trust me on this, in large areas of the country even the pathetically weak labor and wage laws Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #37
I think the wait staff.... ReRe Feb 2014 #10
Minnesota (where I live) and a few other states Jenoch Feb 2014 #32
Well, good on Minnesota... ReRe Feb 2014 #39
Move to Washington. AtheistCrusader Feb 2014 #11
When I ravel to Europe I tip very little because wait staff are paid a good deal more than what CTyankee Feb 2014 #13
That is the way to go! In Texas, I tip fast-food (when I occasionally eat it) workers Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #17
k/r marmar Feb 2014 #12
I was a waitress when the minimum wage was 2.01 an hour LittleGirl Feb 2014 #15
That sucks. I hope it's better, now. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #19
It's my understanding that the Feds made some kind of deal with the Resturant Association SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #16
It is a HUGE problem with Sonic Drive-Ins. My daughter worked for Sonic and made server wages. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #18
People have the suckiest reasons for not tipping. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #21
K&R never less than 20% and always in cash! mountain grammy Feb 2014 #22
30% here for the trifecta: fast service, good food and kid friendly. karadax Feb 2014 #38
Anyone that has worked in food service.... AnneD Feb 2014 #24
there you are! you know we've been asking after you. nt xchrom Feb 2014 #25
Kick, Rec. nt Smarmie Doofus Feb 2014 #26
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch.....nt Enthusiast Feb 2014 #27
It's hardly just food servers TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #30
I was a manager at Shoney's in 1985 in SC... wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #40
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