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In reply to the discussion: Archaeologists: There are too many camels in the Bible, out of time and out of place [View all]nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)42. Yes they were domesticated
Dromedaries were probably domesticated in coastal settlements along the southern Arabian peninsula somewhere between 3000 and 2500 BC. The earliest reference to camels in Arabia is the Sihi mandible, a camelid bone direct dated to ca 7100-7200 cal BC, or about 8200 RCYBP. Sihi is a Neolithic coastal site in Yemen, and the bone is probably a wild dromedary. The earliest camels in Africa are from Qasr Ibrim, Nubia, 9th century BC.
http://archaeology.about.com/od/cterms/g/camels.htm
The stories are supposed to have happened at least a hundred years before the earliest domestic camels in Africa, that be the 10th century. Some of the stories go as far back at the 12th century, that is 300 years. And the document is suspected to have been written in the 7th century, so that is already anywhere from 300 to 600 years. By the time it was written, camel technology had become common, and like everyday life, if we have cars now, why not a hundred fifty years ago? We know from documents that we did not have them 150 years ago. This is the equivalent.
Why their presence in the Old Testament is not surprising, just wrong time wise. This is what archeologists are saying.
And the more we find, I realize this makes people of faith nervous, since if the book is wrong... then the whole thing could be seen as bullshit. Well, the ethics and morals are not to be rejected just because we know some of the events are allegories at best.
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Archaeologists: There are too many camels in the Bible, out of time and out of place [View all]
TheMathieu
Feb 2014
OP
If they just watched the history channel they would know camels are alien ghosts
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2014
#6
Did anyone ever think it WASN'T written or edited long after the events it narrates?
frazzled
Feb 2014
#4
Yes, virtually every Christian fundamentalist believes it's verified history. (nt)
jeff47
Feb 2014
#10
Just what are you trying to push on us? Anyone with any sense knows that picture can't be true.
A Simple Game
Feb 2014
#97
American Right Wing Christians are Authoritarians and GOD is the ULTIMATE boss....
Spitfire of ATJ
Feb 2014
#92
Oh, I can't wait for the day when my field disproves the rest of the bible.
Vashta Nerada
Feb 2014
#13
Maybe Abraham’s servant was smoking a Camel on a mission to find a wife for Isaac.
dipsydoodle
Feb 2014
#14
Genesis was oral tradition written down to chronicle events of millions of years before.
freshwest
Feb 2014
#17
The story of Lot, his wife and daughters is a ribald shaggy dog pun in Sumerian.
aquart
Feb 2014
#26
OT is not inspired word of God. It's what we've got from our past to lead us forward.
aquart
Feb 2014
#27
It's a lot of old folklore which is why an American Bible should include Paul Bunyan.
Spitfire of ATJ
Feb 2014
#93
"Camels probably had little or no role in the lives of such early Jewish patriarchs "
zeemike
Feb 2014
#31
This is actually quite old. Have read similar things from back in the 1800's
The Straight Story
Feb 2014
#34
Thing is, some people 'want' to believe something instead of wanting to find facts
The Straight Story
Feb 2014
#48
The Per-Ankh article about Moses is pretty speculative but touches on some key points.
bklyncowgirl
Feb 2014
#124
I dislike having this conversation and that is why I stay out of the religious forum.
zeemike
Feb 2014
#46
Nonsense. Post something that makes the bible "sound true". Please.
Bernardo de La Paz
Feb 2014
#128
And they should not expect people to "respect" their faith as in "validate" it
Arugula Latte
Feb 2014
#138
Cannibalism is pretty well accepted by archaeologists now in the southwest.
bluedigger
Feb 2014
#145
Science comfortable w uncertainty. Religionists demand certainty & priests stand ready to supply it.
Bernardo de La Paz
Feb 2014
#101
The bible is false. We can be as certain of that as we are about the germ theory of disease. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Feb 2014
#114
Correct, not in the bible, per se. Bible story of creation is still wrong.
Bernardo de La Paz
Feb 2014
#119
Holy shit, it's just a book.. that's been re-"translated" and manipulated for centuries
NightWatcher
Feb 2014
#66
There is no evidence of a worldwide flood that happened in the bible times.
Vashta Nerada
Feb 2014
#140
"The bible is a book with some beautiful poetry, a bloodstained history, a wealth of obscenity, and
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2014
#127
following the History Channel - I would have to surmise that the camels were probably brought to
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2014
#130
Also, kilts were invented about 250 years after the events depicted in "Braveheart"
Recursion
Feb 2014
#144