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18. Don't worry, we'll get better candidates in the Primaries.

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Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:23 PM

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Look... The Problem With Hillary Is, That We Will Get 8 More Years Of Obama/Status Quo... [View all] WillyT Feb 2014 OP

My dear WillyT! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2014 #1

My Dear Peggy... WillyT Feb 2014 #29

So true! JDPriestly Feb 2014 #120

and "another choice" risks getting us another George W. Bush.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #57

The specter of a republican president used to be so scary whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #92

How soooon they forget! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #94

You just laid out the strategy of the PTB and champions of the status quo. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #138

horse hockey. first of all she doesn't come with an "unbeatable" guarantee cali Feb 2014 #146

ditto. how can we come from FDR to this? roguevalley Feb 2014 #101

that kinda presumes the makeup of congress won't change unblock Feb 2014 #2

I have to agree with you. reusrename Feb 2014 #49

We vote for the Democrat. Even if it takes a clothes pin to do it. Autumn Feb 2014 #3

I would love 8 more years of Obama. JaneyVee Feb 2014 #4

Glad You're Doing Alright... WillyT Feb 2014 #7

Republican Congress is the problem. JaneyVee Feb 2014 #10

Exactly. nt cstanleytech Feb 2014 #87

that's the way many Democrats see it though hfojvt Feb 2014 #35

Yeah... It's A Bit Like Putting The Dog Out At Night To Do Its Business... WillyT Feb 2014 #36

Do you hear what you are saying? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #51

No no...it's Clinton's fault the economy crashed and it's Obamas fault this person uponit7771 Feb 2014 #67

uhm, I never said it was Obama's fault hfojvt Feb 2014 #113

the electorate rejected me hfojvt Feb 2014 #110

With all due respect ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #114

I always loved that phrase hfojvt Feb 2014 #128

me too. it's fashionable here to hate on dems. it's like a little contest to see who can do it best. dionysus Feb 2014 #8

So What About The Homeless... The Vets Committing Suicide... The Billionaires Decrying Class Warfare... WillyT Feb 2014 #19

So what about all that over the last 30 years? nt kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #28

I'm Sorry... Not Sure I Get What You're Saying... WillyT Feb 2014 #102

Apparently we were expected to shut up and smile. progressoid Feb 2014 #119

Looks pretty obvious to me... ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2014 #122

So... Why Didn't Democratic President Obama, Put These Obviously Democratic Concerns... WillyT Feb 2014 #127

To say nothing of an out-of-control NSA. That would get worse under a Hillary administration. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #123

yup, and that's all it is, all about getting their recs and being popular on the internet JI7 Feb 2014 #22

that's certainly not what it is for me hfojvt Feb 2014 #41

"let's compare heart count here" L0oniX Feb 2014 #98

Damn... Ya Got Me... It's All About The Recs... WillyT Feb 2014 #82

It is just a big game of "I'm more liberal than you" FSogol Feb 2014 #37

It's fashionable here to cheer for drone murder, corporate health insurance, TPP, Doctor_J Feb 2014 #62

Nobody cheers for that treestar Feb 2014 #68

What does "I love it when I wake up and Obama is president" mean then? Doctor_J Feb 2014 #71

Don't forget the content-less snark! villager Feb 2014 #89

+1 and I think, if a lot more jaysunb Feb 2014 #16

Yes - MICHELLE Obama. Marie Marie Feb 2014 #61

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2014 #65

Me too. ucrdem Feb 2014 #131

She's the ultimate test of Nose Holding capabilities. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #5

Hillary would be, and would have been (much) better than Obama. IMO quinnox Feb 2014 #6

I agree with you on all points. Autumn Feb 2014 #9

Heh, we seem to be on the same wavelength because quinnox Feb 2014 #13

I think so. Biden is the VP, he runs Obama is going to back Biden. Autumn Feb 2014 #17

Good point. I have warmed up to Biden quinnox Feb 2014 #20

Hillary will steamroller Biden hack89 Feb 2014 #73

true, but I think the scenario was if Hillary doesn't run quinnox Feb 2014 #83

Not true. Sorry. Obama will not "back" any primary candidate. MADem Feb 2014 #133

Obama sucks ProSense Feb 2014 #15

. ProSense Feb 2014 #14

This guy seems to love Hillary FSogol Feb 2014 #39

I do love Hillary, but I'm not sure if its the "right move" for her to run again quinnox Feb 2014 #47

With this Congress, including the blue dogs in 2000, I doubt it. As long as Hillary is in good lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #86

Hillary has earned her stripes hobie Feb 2014 #135

The only way she would not end up that way is if both houses are controlled by Democrats. jwirr Feb 2014 #11

That wouldn't help - see the 2009-2010 Obama Doctor_J Feb 2014 #66

Control would have to mean having the 60+ majority in the Senate and a real majority in the House. jwirr Feb 2014 #147

Well then we're doomed Doctor_J Feb 2014 #149

Agreed. But I will still vote and work to send the best we have from MN. Fortunately bachmann is jwirr Feb 2014 #150

and as we've seen, even that would not be enough treestar Feb 2014 #70

I would suggest that you vote for someone more to your liking in the primary. Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #12

Pretty Sure I Said That In The OP... WillyT Feb 2014 #107

Don't worry, we'll get better candidates in the Primaries. harun Feb 2014 #18

And if Biden could convince Warren to be his running mate Drew Richards Feb 2014 #21

Good job, Will. You just sold Hillary to me. Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #23

Anytime DI... Anytme... WillyT Feb 2014 #31

fall in love during the primary, fall in line during the general geek tragedy Feb 2014 #24

Hillary will run. Hillary can win. Hillary will win. democratisphere Feb 2014 #25

We need to own the discussion PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #26

+1000 RC Feb 2014 #85

+ 10,000 cantbeserious Feb 2014 #27

But it won't be mere *status quo.* Corporatists are DESTROYING this country. woo me with science Feb 2014 #30

Yep... It Will Get Worse... With The Monied Democrats Leading The Way... WillyT Feb 2014 #32

The Democrats' job is to keep all of us "Extreme Leftists" quiet long enough Maedhros Feb 2014 #45

That's What I Fear... WillyT Feb 2014 #105

"codifying" would be the operative word there. n/t BelgianMadCow Feb 2014 #144

Obama is worse than the "*status quo.*" ProSense Feb 2014 #33

The Status Quo Would Not Support Either Of Those, But... WillyT Feb 2014 #40

yes, the corporatists are destroying this country. And it's pathetic that the Third Way sycophants antigop Feb 2014 #96

+1 a whole bunch. Well said, woo me with science! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #139

I see little evidence that either Obama or Hillary wouldn't be as liberal as we let them Johonny Feb 2014 #34

Exactly. Winning in 2014 is most important for having liberal/progressive agendas FSogol Feb 2014 #43

Could You Please Comment On This Then ??? WillyT Feb 2014 #76

There are malcontents around besides the ones on this board? FSogol Feb 2014 #141

Alex Sink is a failed candidate, but Sink is not the only 'Moderate Centrist' to pause from Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #143

If Republicans control Congress, they control the agenda. Period. nt Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #78

Obama has been like 5 more zentrum Feb 2014 #38

What to do? For now... focus on 2014! (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2014 #42

precisely! thank you. n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #44

I support Hillary but have no issue with a primary. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #46

And I wish they'd get rid of primaries dflprincess Feb 2014 #60

Caucuses means less people participate. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #88

That's their choice, the caucuses are open to everyone. dflprincess Feb 2014 #95

I disagree. primaries allow people to vote throught the day. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #99

Caucuses are the closest thing we have to town meetings dflprincess Feb 2014 #109

You make interesting points but for some they might not be able to make caucus time. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #111

Having been involved in both Democratic caucuses and primaries, I feel you are completely wrong. FSogol Feb 2014 #142

What to do, what to do... CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #48

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #55

"What to do, what to do... " Martin Eden Feb 2014 #50

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #58

Good Enough ... Martin Eden Feb 2014 #140

No more Dynastic Presidencies bl968 Feb 2014 #52

YES, Sotomeyor and Kagan lobodons Feb 2014 #53

+1 you betcha Hekate Feb 2014 #129

In comparison to getting another George W Bush? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #54

We can't create the candidate we want Shankapotomus Feb 2014 #56

Instead of all these anti-Hillary posts, why not suggest viable candidates ecstatic Feb 2014 #59

Most dems don't hate Obama uponit7771 Feb 2014 #63

And I Don't Either... In Many Ways I Think He Was Restricted In His Responses To Our Problems... WillyT Feb 2014 #93

Won't it depend on the Congresses? treestar Feb 2014 #64

No. We had in 2009-2010 60 (D) Senators and 259 (D) House members, and still Doctor_J Feb 2014 #69

We had 60 for all of about 60 days in 2009. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #153

Exactly! Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #159

Then Reid, with the president's backing, should have gonged the filibuster after the third one Doctor_J Feb 2014 #164

Huh Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #158

Hillary is a smart, accomplished and amazing woman. Marie Marie Feb 2014 #72

I love Biden. He's a good man, in the true sense of "good" nt fadedrose Feb 2014 #75

Peggy & Willie, be patient fadedrose Feb 2014 #74

I like the way you put that, fadedrose Hekate Feb 2014 #130

Good Council fadedrose... But I'm Not Attacking The Party... I'm... WillyT Feb 2014 #163

It is too soon fadedrose Feb 2014 #165

I know, the third way rut. Phlem Feb 2014 #77

Wall Street will ensure... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #79

So who do you suggest, and it should be someone who might actually run? lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #80

Elizabeth Warren N/T Pharaoh Feb 2014 #81

well, the fear of rightwingnuttery dripping off your post stupidicus Feb 2014 #84

the differences are there to get you to vote for the similarities! MisterP Feb 2014 #126

exactly stupidicus Feb 2014 #145

Works for me, if we can get a better Congress for her to work with. Hekate Feb 2014 #90

Check This Out... WillyT Feb 2014 #104

Unfortunately, the nomination is hers for the taking. idendoit Feb 2014 #91

Hillary isn't going to move to the left - not a chance. delrem Feb 2014 #97

Could be a lot worse. aikoaiko Feb 2014 #100

What to do? zeemike Feb 2014 #103

He hasn't governed from the center right. And this TeaLeft purist attitude is not reality. RBInMaine Feb 2014 #106

Let Me Introduce You To The Democratic President That Served FOUR Terms... WillyT Feb 2014 #116

...and if you had been living in those times, you would have HATED him ConservativeDemocrat Feb 2014 #124

What to do? Consider the clown car or at least the getaway car of the GOP field. gordianot Feb 2014 #108

We don't know what the primary landscape will look like. IAmKirak Feb 2014 #112

Ya awful eager to moan, if ya lookin three years ahead to moan about whoever wins 2016 struggle4progress Feb 2014 #115

Why does everyone have to find a "PROBLEM"? George II Feb 2014 #117

Because There Are Vets Of The Iraq/Afghanistan Wars Sleeping In The Streets... WillyT Feb 2014 #121

Billary/Warren 2016 CFLDem Feb 2014 #118

I am tired of annointed aristocrats kwolf68 Feb 2014 #125

I will never support anyone who voted for Bush's war. Period. sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #132

So in 2004 you did not vote for John Kerry, right? JoePhilly Feb 2014 #156

My conscience is clear, thank you for asking. n/t sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #161

Hillary isn't Bill OR Obama, and she really likes problem solving, Lucinda Feb 2014 #134

The Problem with Hillary - Former Goldwater Girl wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #136

OMG.. she turned in her college years. Elizabeth Warren was a Republican well into her 40s OKNancy Feb 2014 #151

So it was Youthful Indiscretion then, OK What about her working for 6 years for WalMart as an adult? wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #166

Please, no Hillary. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #137

There's a response to this thread Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #148

The problem is some think Hillary is not a liberal OKNancy Feb 2014 #152

Cool!! BKH70041 Feb 2014 #154

Look, the President ProSense Feb 2014 #155

The biggest problem that Obama has had to deal with Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #157

Least Harm colsohlibgal Feb 2014 #160

Willy T...Tumultuous Times between Now and Then........ KoKo Feb 2014 #162