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23. He knew that crimes had been committed, massive crimes, war crimes, lies, torture, Wall St. crimes

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 01:58 AM

Feb 2014

and we were waiting, we WORKED for eight long years, to get some accountability for those crimes against humanity, that is what we most wanted, everything else was secondary to that, because so long as those crimes go unpunished, the perps keep on committing them, human beings are still being slaughtered, tortured, maimed, displaced, millions of them. And the evil doers, to quote an infamous 'unitary executive' are thriving, they are treated like elder statesmen and women, they are free to still influence the direction this country is headed in.

And after all the years we place our trust, most of us, in this president to begin to restore JUSTICE. And no sooner did we give him the WH than he told us 'we are going to move forward' from War Crimes, how do you do that? And from Wall St's massive crimes??? Not just 'move forward, but reward the criminals?

We the people now have to change OUR tactics. And this may be a pivotal time in this country's history. We've wasted a lot of time 'hoping' and 'believing' but not any more. And that is probably a good thing, that we won't be doing that anymore.

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As A Lifelong Democrat... Are You Satisfied With The "Hope And Change" That Was Promised In 2008 ??? [View all] WillyT Feb 2014 OP

You and I line up on this question, my dear WillyT... CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2014 #1

i agree. nt DesertFlower Feb 2014 #20

I am not satisfied at all. BUT, I don't blame the President. I am angry at the Congress and the kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #71

Damnit, you're going to get them all riled up again mindwalker_i Feb 2014 #2

Damn... Hadn't Thought Of That... WillyT Feb 2014 #7

It's certainly not all Obama's fault, though i think he's been kinda mediocre overall Armstead Feb 2014 #3

Totally Agree... WillyT Feb 2014 #11

Yeah, we need a transformative president mindwalker_i Feb 2014 #13

No she won't. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #37

"tired of being in the triage unit" -- boy, does that capture how I feel about Nay Feb 2014 #82

That's pretty much how I feel, too. nt LumosMaxima Feb 2014 #19

Where is the "Hell NO!" RC Feb 2014 #4

I'm so sorry that I'm out of hearts. Scuba Feb 2014 #83

I agree completely NEOhiodemocrat Feb 2014 #91

Yep! bravenak Feb 2014 #5

Changing the political situation isn't a spectator sport, willy struggle4progress Feb 2014 #6

The entire West Coast did not elect a bunch of Republicans and thus 'across the US' is Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #70

The Great Gerrymander of 2012 struggle4progress Feb 2014 #97

... Rex Feb 2014 #8

lol, you brought the popcorn Rex .... sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #17

Well thank you sabrina! Rex Feb 2014 #98

my major disappointment is that he was being honest about trying geek tragedy Feb 2014 #9

I don't think you should have said that. Anyone, after the disastrous, lying, tortuous Bush era and sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #18

Yeah, for at least 16 years before Obama, Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #58

The biggest political disappointment of my life LittleBlue Feb 2014 #10

You're not alone, LittleBlue. We spent eight years desperately trying to get Dems in power in order sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #21

So true. Now all we need is a bar LittleBlue Feb 2014 #24

I'll Buy The First Round... WillyT Feb 2014 #27

Hey Willy LittleBlue Feb 2014 #30

Lol, sounds like a great idea, but I'll have wine if it's okay with you. sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #29

Yep. And with every day and new sell out I find myself increasingly cynical. nt Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #67

Absolutely. Who wouldn't be? Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #12

LOL, I know about 4 posters who could write this! nt Logical Feb 2014 #28

Where is a jobs program and a shut down of coporation malfesence HangOnKids Feb 2014 #44

You just proved my point. Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Feb 2014 #48

He had a Dem House and a super in the Senate, he decided he wanted HeritageCare... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #68

Those of you who always assume and never ask fail to learn. I'm assuming that when Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #72

hope/change was a slogan without an agenda. the CHANGE was anything but shrub. nt UTUSN Feb 2014 #14

^^^THIS^^^ cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #74

The promise was nice, Blue_In_AK Feb 2014 #15

When I look back on it ... frazzled Feb 2014 #16

He knew that crimes had been committed, massive crimes, war crimes, lies, torture, Wall St. crimes sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #23

There's no statute of limitations. reusrename Feb 2014 #33

Yes, that gives me hope, although so many Nazis found shelter here and elsewhere and were never sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #35

If we were able to bring Dubya to justice then the world would breath easier. reusrename Feb 2014 #38

It would regain for the US, the respect and moral authority we have lost. sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #39

They should be forced to learn to recite the Declaration of Independence. reusrename Feb 2014 #43

I remember that coup. I'm tempted to make an exception, but maybe I'm less kind than you and sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #102

I'd really rather see them sitting in cell for the rest of their natural life, too. reusrename Feb 2014 #103

Wonderful, Well Thought Out Post... And In Many Ways, I Agree... But... WillyT Feb 2014 #26

Yes, for the most part. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #22

I voted in the 1 slot. William769 Feb 2014 #25

I just wanted him to stop a nuclear first strike against Iran. reusrename Feb 2014 #31

I am not satisfied- but it is not too different than what I expected and not significantly different Douglas Carpenter Feb 2014 #32

Obama was a big question mark before the 2008 election Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #34

Other: I'm satisfied with some things and very dissatisfied with other things. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #36

As the saying goes hope has two daughters Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #40

+1 wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #61

give Obama a break already..... chillfactor Feb 2014 #41

I took that as a slogan treestar Feb 2014 #42

I think he's done a decent job, given the circumstances. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #46

I thank that's a good assessment BainsBane Feb 2014 #55

Ford... probably could have been worse. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #56

I see maybe 5 wars we didn't get involved in. Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #47

I wonder how this poll would go if it was on free republic Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #49

go there and ask them. nt msongs Feb 2014 #51

Nah...there's really no need. Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #52

"self proclaimed liberals" JI7 Feb 2014 #54

LOL. I thought we were extreme leftists. cui bono Feb 2014 #64

Who did I call extreme leftists? Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #92

He's done better than I expected gwheezie Feb 2014 #50

Anyone saying they're not satisfied... TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #53

No. Absolutely not. Being dissatisfied with Obama has nothing to do with what the other guy cui bono Feb 2014 #66

Nope, Nope, Nope IMHO the last 6 years were wasted and the next 2 are not going to be much wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #57

Satisfied with Obama; not so much when it comes to the people who MAKE law, Congress. nt MADem Feb 2014 #59

With the caveat that I mostly approve of Obama himself, bemildred Feb 2014 #60

I figured the poll would give interesting results but I NEVER thought it would be so lopsided! Fearless Feb 2014 #62

I'm not satisifed at all, but I do understand the difficult environment he's had to deal with. reformist2 Feb 2014 #63

I'm not, but his corporate pals sure are. nt Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #65

High Hopes sums it up hobbit709 Feb 2014 #69

I think that ProSense Feb 2014 #73

Nnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #75

I voted satisfied and that may be a surprise - TBF Feb 2014 #76

Can you name one politician in your lifetime who truly satisfied? randome Feb 2014 #77

If things go well during your term in office, you get the credit. BKH70041 Feb 2014 #78

I haven't seen a Democratic president who was far enough left for me gollygee Feb 2014 #79

too much time spent trying to appease those who lost the election and I am sick of all the excuses bowens43 Feb 2014 #80

Actually, I'm stunned he got as much done as he did. aquart Feb 2014 #81

Hell no. It has been a bait and switch, corporate Trojan horse presidency. woo me with science Feb 2014 #84

Frankly, I am amazed at the progress he has made with the Congress he has had to work with. Pisces Feb 2014 #85

Mostly satisfied Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #86

For whatever reason, a once-in-a-generation opportunity for real change was squandered. Octafish Feb 2014 #87

"For whatever reason" = Corporate $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ woo me with science Feb 2014 #90

I'll never be totally satisfied. B Calm Feb 2014 #88

I am not but it needs a "because of repub obstruction" aspect to it. libtodeath Feb 2014 #89

WAKE UP! He didn't *promise* anything. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #93

Wow...tough crowd... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #94

Selling us to Wallstreet CFLDem Feb 2014 #95

Other: Xyzse Feb 2014 #96

Looks like folks here should have gotten a primary challenge going in 2012. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #99

With the exception of LGBT issues -- Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2014 #100

i`m not but i understand why madrchsod Feb 2014 #101