Did you hear Crystal Ball's rant on the Cycle asking Hillary not to run?

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356. You have proved nothing VR.

What you continue to prove is that you are a condescending, blowhard bully.

I swear to God, when I read subthreads you are involved in it tries my patience like few others around here.

You are claiming that Hillary Clinton is a hard-core, left-wing liberal based on one site's determination using HER SPEECHES as a component basis for the categorization. This also completely ignores the sheer number of times it is SAFE for fake economic liberals to vote left in Congress because a particular bill has zero chance of passing, and yes, I am saying that Hillary Clinton is a fake economic liberal.

Hillary Clinton has STRONG support on DU with our most conservative members. In addition, she has VERY STRONG support from big business/banking. In addition, our most liberal members don't even know if they can vote for her. <-------- All of those things clearly show that Hilary Clinton is not a hard-core, left-wing liberal. It's a reputation based on her actions over the years. You can take to the floor and argue otherwise, but even most of her strongest defenders around here, for the most part, must be laughing at your characterizations (and On The Issues characterizations).

Lastly, Clinton has been a major player in drafting the TPP. The TPP apparently impacts MANY of the 25 groupings that you love to point to. If the TPP is as bad as the leaks have indicated, then Clinton could be partly responsible for the implementation of A LOT of very right-wing policies becoming the law of the land ALL AT ONCE. Of course, many will try and protect her from this and attempt to give her plausible deniability, but the totality of the ACTIONS of Hillary Clinton and the sources of her financial supporters should wake up anyone who has beliefs that Hillary Clinton will go against Wall Street and industry on behalf of average Americans.

Hillary Clinton is a strong social liberal AND she will further the interests of the elite/Wall Street. It seems that's the best we can get in today's America.