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Spider Jerusalem

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25. Sure you can.

Reply to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 09:34 AM

Feb 2014

How many more data points do you need? How many extreme weather events does it take before you can definitively say "okay, climate change is causing this"? Isn't saying "well, maybe it's not actually climate change" just a way of ignoring the obvious so you don't have to actually deal with it?

Record high temperatures in Alaska. Extreme drought in the Southwest. Winter storms in the Eastern US (including unusually severe snow in the South). Record rainfall and hurricane-force gales and widespread flooding in the UK. It isn't JUST the winter storm, it's everything that's happening across a broad swath of the Northern Hemisphere, in terms of climate and weather.

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The Official, I live in the South, why are we having *snow* this again, thread [View all] Aerows Feb 2014 OP

Wasn't there an ice storm in the South sometime maybe 15-20 years ago? . . . Journeyman Feb 2014 #1

There was deep freeze in Arkansas in December 1983 Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #9

I remember December 1983. Jenoch Feb 2014 #13

I've never experienced that sort of cold Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #14

1987? 88? deep freeze in Ala. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #10

Snowed in Jacksonville in 89 Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #45

'93 Etlanna ice storm made the front of the Stars & Stripes. Orsino Feb 2014 #94

I drove through one, New years Eve 1964. Downwinder Feb 2014 #16

Exactly 20 years ago jakeXT Feb 2014 #19

Is it snowing down there? Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #2

It missed us, Thank every diety ever prayed to Aerows Feb 2014 #32

Glad it missed y'all too. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #33

It is Aerows Feb 2014 #34

i'm in phoenix. the forecast for tomorrow is 80 -- then DesertFlower Feb 2014 #3

because it is winter and this happens quite often? nt msongs Feb 2014 #4

Not like this it doesn't. Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #6

I suspect that people will look back at the winter of 2013-2014... Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #11

Ding, ding, ding nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #15

And what can we do? yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #30

And both Russia and China say unless we cannot get the US nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #59

Don't slip on the ice, Aerows steve2470 Feb 2014 #5

Glenn Beckkkkk's response: rustydog Feb 2014 #7

You want I should 2naSalit Feb 2014 #8

I have ice cleats. Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #12

30 and freezing rain in Atlanta right now, ugh nt steve2470 Feb 2014 #17

It's called climate change. hobbit709 Feb 2014 #18

It was a rhetorical statement. Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #20

Sure you can. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #25

I posted re. AK a few days ago hatrack Feb 2014 #28

Yup nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #62

'Historic' storm ramping up as temperatures drop and precipitation increases steve2470 Feb 2014 #21

NC had a nasty ice-storm in February of '95... Rhythm Feb 2014 #22

Blame Obama malaise Feb 2014 #23

SNORT, FUNNY nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #95

Don't you know that he sent fake snow to the South malaise Feb 2014 #96

The guy is busy nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #97

7am The amount of ice forecast has changed. Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #24

Just went out and cleaned the snow out of the bird feeder Glitterati Feb 2014 #26

For one and all: Shelter from the Storm Berlum Feb 2014 #27

I love it! Jamastiene Feb 2014 #29

Oh Lord. If it is snowing where you are, my friend, then it is probably headed my way Aerows Feb 2014 #38

slick ice Montana redneck Feb 2014 #76

Lol, like clockwork. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #102

waaaa Montana redneck Feb 2014 #103

It's global climate change. MineralMan Feb 2014 #31

Ice storms happen in the south B2G Feb 2014 #37

You lose credibility Aerows Feb 2014 #39

Get a grip B2G Feb 2014 #40

Hi! Aerows Feb 2014 #41

I am not a climate change denier B2G Feb 2014 #42

Well, I think if losing all credibility were an Olympic sport? Aerows Feb 2014 #43

Do you know anything at all B2G Feb 2014 #44

Just science Aerows Feb 2014 #47

Please describe the meteorological events B2G Feb 2014 #49

Are the words "Geology" off-limits, too? n/t Aerows Feb 2014 #50

Nope, go for it nt B2G Feb 2014 #52

How about quantitative analysis? Aerows Feb 2014 #53

Are you going to provide any specifics or B2G Feb 2014 #56

I wanted to make sure you were comfortable with discussion Aerows Feb 2014 #57

Are you going to just condescend or B2G Feb 2014 #60

Start here. Aerows Feb 2014 #63

That relates to this winter storm exactly how? B2G Feb 2014 #69

And your idea that a polar vortex Aerows Feb 2014 #71

Did I say that a polar vortex doesn't exist? B2G Feb 2014 #72

Not necessarily Aerows Feb 2014 #73

Believe what? B2G Feb 2014 #74

You said "not necessarily indicative" Aerows Feb 2014 #75

Let me spell this out for you B2G Feb 2014 #77

Uh huh Aerows Feb 2014 #79

OMG. You are all over the place. B2G Feb 2014 #80

Oh wait, you do? Aerows Feb 2014 #81

I provided a detailed analysis B2G Feb 2014 #82

At least I took up your time Aerows Feb 2014 #83

Whateves B2G Feb 2014 #84

There you go :) Aerows Feb 2014 #85

Vastly so B2G Feb 2014 #86

As long as you aren't some ugly Aerows Feb 2014 #87

So now you're regressing to B2G Feb 2014 #88

*Bang* Aerows Feb 2014 #89

I'm sure you think so. nt B2G Feb 2014 #90

No, I pretty much nailed it. Aerows Feb 2014 #91

Nailed it like you nailed the rest of this thread. B2G Feb 2014 #93

Thought so Aerows Feb 2014 #98

Whatever you say... MineralMan Feb 2014 #51

Don't worry Aerows Feb 2014 #54

So it appears. I just answered from My Posts. MineralMan Feb 2014 #55

Feel free to chime in, though Aerows Feb 2014 #58

Perhaps, but meteorology is a different discipline. MineralMan Feb 2014 #61

Meteorologic changes Aerows Feb 2014 #65

This isn't an "isolated event". Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #78

The odd thing about these ice storms is that they come so infrequently in the South now. Orsino Feb 2014 #92

It takes a very special set of circumstances B2G Feb 2014 #99

But the storms in the south are not isolated events. Rex Feb 2014 #101

It's started here in Virginia... ohheckyeah Feb 2014 #35

Tons of fun on the roads in my lil section of NC. Be safe - there be madness out there. nt nc4bo Feb 2014 #36

Charlotte, Raleigh Drivers Having 'Atlanta' Moment As Everyone Heads Home from Work at the Same Time jakeXT Feb 2014 #46

No kidding. It's bad. Hope everyone gets home and not have to spend the night out there. nc4bo Feb 2014 #48

I put up with Baptists and humidity so that I don't have to deal with this shit Tom Ripley Feb 2014 #64

Baptists and humidity Aerows Feb 2014 #67

Oh you have no idea how shitty this has been up north. there are mountains of solid ice all over the bettyellen Feb 2014 #66

As a person upthread pointed out, though Aerows Feb 2014 #68

neither of which I can tolerate. but this has been crazy! last week, two days after the storm they bettyellen Feb 2014 #70

Or show any skin, if female. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #100