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Ms. Toad

(38,648 posts)
36. Yup.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:41 AM
Feb 2014

Best bet for enforcement is a complaint by a recently no-longer-employed person (or more than one) to the labor department. Because you know any current employee won't be an employee long.

Same dilemma faced by employees who are being paid as independent contractors when they face their first tax hit. I could have them use the tip form to report their income and save 7+% in SE taxes, but that was an immediate flag to the IRS to go collect the other half from the employer. (And filling out the SS8 to request a formal determination had the same result without the benefit of saving the taxes in the first place). Not the best move for making an employer happy - but in some instances it was the only option when the unexpected tax bill was higher than they could pay.

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It is a problem in some restaurants pipoman Feb 2014 #1
Well that can happen el_bryanto Feb 2014 #2
We don't share tips with anyone pipoman Feb 2014 #3
You can consistently count on minimum wage, Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #20
And your restaraunt isn't typical. marble falls Feb 2014 #9
It's been true in most states as recently as Oct. 2011 PotatoChip Feb 2014 #23
The problem is that Congress also works for tips and the ones tipping them don't tip anyone else Fumesucker Feb 2014 #4
+1 Scuba Feb 2014 #5
+1 daleanime Feb 2014 #6
This is why I always overtip (according to people who go out with me) Bettie Feb 2014 #7
I have a collection of $0 pay checks. I've had owners tell me how much tips I had to declare.... marble falls Feb 2014 #8
Assuming you did not make the amount you were told to declare, Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #14
I have always declared my income accurately. That means my social security check is a lot .... marble falls Feb 2014 #28
On those dead nights, Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #29
Yep. My employers broke whatever laws their lobbiests couldn't get sweetened. And I watched .... marble falls Feb 2014 #31
I know the financial reality - Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #33
thanks for helping us all out, she who cares for my brother takes care of me. marble falls Feb 2014 #34
Yes it is, and that brings us to the next topic. Just try to have those laws enforced. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #35
Yup. Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #36
Trust me on this, in large areas of the country even the pathetically weak labor and wage laws Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #37
I think the wait staff.... ReRe Feb 2014 #10
Minnesota (where I live) and a few other states Jenoch Feb 2014 #32
Well, good on Minnesota... ReRe Feb 2014 #39
Move to Washington. AtheistCrusader Feb 2014 #11
When I ravel to Europe I tip very little because wait staff are paid a good deal more than what CTyankee Feb 2014 #13
That is the way to go! In Texas, I tip fast-food (when I occasionally eat it) workers Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #17
k/r marmar Feb 2014 #12
I was a waitress when the minimum wage was 2.01 an hour LittleGirl Feb 2014 #15
That sucks. I hope it's better, now. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #19
It's my understanding that the Feds made some kind of deal with the Resturant Association SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #16
It is a HUGE problem with Sonic Drive-Ins. My daughter worked for Sonic and made server wages. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #18
People have the suckiest reasons for not tipping. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #21
K&R never less than 20% and always in cash! mountain grammy Feb 2014 #22
30% here for the trifecta: fast service, good food and kid friendly. karadax Feb 2014 #38
Anyone that has worked in food service.... AnneD Feb 2014 #24
there you are! you know we've been asking after you. nt xchrom Feb 2014 #25
Kick, Rec. nt Smarmie Doofus Feb 2014 #26
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch.....nt Enthusiast Feb 2014 #27
It's hardly just food servers TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #30
I was a manager at Shoney's in 1985 in SC... wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #40
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