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127. at the very end of Lawrence's show, was there suggestion that the official tape was doctored?

Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:31 PM

Mar 2012

The lawyer didn't say so--nobody did--but she said that the version that the police department had released didn't have "f-ing" or anything else at that point in the tape.

Then Lawrence ran out of time to discuss it further. But if what the lawyer said is true (and that's a big if, of course, since she'd just gotten a call about this from her office during the previous commercial break and it'd have been easy to misunderstand when things were moving that fast), either the police department edited the "official" tape or somebody else added "f-ing coons"--and if it had been added deliberately, wouldn't it have been done better?

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Zimmerman heard to be using racial slur on 911 tape [View all] HipChick Mar 2012 OP

Well, obviously you havent heard about Florida's Raccoon Problem...nt hexola Mar 2012 #1

Raccoons in hoodies carrying skiddles. They always get away. baldguy Mar 2012 #5

But they were just responsibly sorting recyclables! eridani Mar 2012 #129

Really? someone can find the murder of a child a joke? HipChick Mar 2012 #7

One can not be serious 100% of the time. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2012 #48

Are you counting the murder of a child among those times when we shouldn't be serious? Zalatix Mar 2012 #90

No, the claims of racists is when one shouldn't be serious. jeff47 Mar 2012 #99

I feel the time for humor is past, when it comes to Zimmerman. Zalatix Mar 2012 #102

And how many people "on the fence" do you think you'd reach with that statement? jeff47 Mar 2012 #103

the joke bombed SemperEadem Mar 2012 #132

For you. You aren't everyone. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2012 #134

never said I was SemperEadem Mar 2012 #136

Not when you're claiming the joke "bombed" jeff47 Mar 2012 #137

I wouldn't say he was a child. He was a minor, a teen, but "child" usu. means Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #139

lol...needed that uponit7771 Mar 2012 #21

creepy stonecutter357 Mar 2012 #41

It's a crime that Zimmerman has not been arrested for murder. WI_DEM Mar 2012 #2

That's what I say, too duhneece Mar 2012 #35

Well ok, I'll try BootinUp Mar 2012 #3

whoa. that's pretty damned clear. cali Mar 2012 #4

It is very clear. unapatriciated Mar 2012 #16

rec'd for posting dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #6

Another rec. tosh Mar 2012 #17

The dispatcher said 'sir, you don't need to be saying things like that,' or something very close Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #8

Apparently Asians don't commit crimes.. HipChick Mar 2012 #13

That could be demographics, not bias thesquanderer Mar 2012 #28

The dispatcher says he doesn't need to follow him. Hissyspit Mar 2012 #20

That's SOP. intheflow Mar 2012 #81

He says "black, white or Hispanic." He lists all three Number23 Mar 2012 #131

I can understand for a racial description, since it'd help police know the guy, Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #140

Recced for visibility. The local police chief should be arrested for negligence and accessory leveymg Mar 2012 #9

I didn't hear it. trumad Mar 2012 #10

2:21 cali Mar 2012 #12

yep, this is premeditated murder. bluecoat_fan Mar 2012 #14

I also hear "f-cking c--ns" muttered @ 2:21. The dispatcher then tells him not to follow. leveymg Mar 2012 #24

Thanks trumad Mar 2012 #25

yup, I heard it maddezmom Mar 2012 #38

Heard it too....whispered, under the breath but very clear that is what he said.... Pachamama Mar 2012 #46

That is absolutely what he said. madaboutharry Mar 2012 #45

It could be either "fuckin' coons" or "fuckin' punks" as far as I can tell. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #65

It's clearly the former... ellisonz Mar 2012 #84

No, it's not clear. Hissyspit Mar 2012 #93

On second listen maybe... ellisonz Mar 2012 #94

because Zimmerman is running & breathing heavy, it is muttered in a low voice. You miss it at first. unapatriciated Mar 2012 #18

It is whispered. Hissyspit Mar 2012 #22

I couldn't hear it either rurallib Mar 2012 #37

Zimmerman drops his voice when he XanaDUer Mar 2012 #96

Wow! MoonRiver Mar 2012 #11

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #50

It's a hate crime.... a kennedy Mar 2012 #15

Zimmerman was a ticking time bomb. DLevine Mar 2012 #19

Yeap, it's racial...it's a hate crime...why wasn't this guy arrested? uponit7771 Mar 2012 #23

Why the HELL is this dispatcher working with the murderer? ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #26

Dispatcher told Zimmerman not to follow after the racial slur at 2:21 leveymg Mar 2012 #29

I listened. Dispatcher should have told him, at that point, that he appreciated ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #31

9/11 operators need to issue clear, forceful "Do not pursue" commands. Call it a "Zimmerman warning" leveymg Mar 2012 #32

Absolutely! randome Mar 2012 #33

I think Zimmerman understood perfectly well what the operator was telling him. LisaL Mar 2012 #72

I agree about Z's understanding. He knew what he was doing. leveymg Mar 2012 #76

Didn't think I was capable EmeraldCityGrl Mar 2012 #27

Boycott Florida.. HipChick Mar 2012 #30

But it's not just Florida. See California. See New York. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2012 #34

"Think Rodney King." Boojatta Mar 2012 #39

Rodney King's "luck" was that someone was videotaping the incident a block away. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2012 #43

FL. is a good place to start. There is no way this case is going to get buried EmeraldCityGrl Mar 2012 #44

RIght.. Leesaann1173 Mar 2012 #54

I gather you have a soft EmeraldCityGrl Mar 2012 #58

There's no doubt that's what he said. one_voice Mar 2012 #36

So much for the posters insisting this wasn;t about race! Odin2005 Mar 2012 #40

Some heard it differently ('punks', 'cops', etc..) SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #42

It's actually sounding more like Hissyspit Mar 2012 #47

I agree that it was not crystal clear. Quantess Mar 2012 #49

SO THAT IS WHY Rex Mar 2012 #51

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Was stormfront boring today? Lilyeye Mar 2012 #63

HAHA!!! Rex Mar 2012 #75

Didn't hear it. WilliamPitt Mar 2012 #55

It is said, in a gaspy tone, as he is running ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #56

He Said 'Fuckin' Coons', Sir: It Is Quite Clear The Magistrate Mar 2012 #62

Actually, it's not. Hissyspit Mar 2012 #68

I agree. It's not clear at all. LisaL Mar 2012 #71

It was clear to me deutsey Mar 2012 #79

This is reminiscent of the Mickey Kantor "War Room" Hissyspit Mar 2012 #86

Based on my earphones, it was pretty clear. deutsey Mar 2012 #106

Obviously, it's debatable. Hissyspit Mar 2012 #124

Obviously, or there'd be no debate, I suppose deutsey Mar 2012 #133

dupe post - self-delete Hissyspit Mar 2012 #87

As clear as an azure sky of deepest summer, Sir NNN0LHI Mar 2012 #88

Hate crime...murder Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #57

wow fishwax Mar 2012 #59

Thank god Leesaann was PPRd JonLP24 Mar 2012 #60

Agreed. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #61

A 12 minute history, wonder if that's a record? AnotherDreamWeaver Mar 2012 #73

Nah. Leftist Agitator Mar 2012 #108

It sounded like he said punks to me Lilyeye Mar 2012 #64

I heard it. warrior1 Mar 2012 #66

Hate crime. That is all. nt nanabugg Mar 2012 #67

I barely hear it...it's not clear enough. Catherine Vincent Mar 2012 #69

Operator asked if "suspicous" person Zimmerman claimed he saw was black, white or hispanic. LisaL Mar 2012 #70

The audio just isn't good enough to determine exactly what he said RZM Mar 2012 #74

It is on my computer. Wear headphones. leveymg Mar 2012 #77

I just did RZM Mar 2012 #78

this is a murder. roman7 Mar 2012 #80

Sounds like wind shear to me. intheflow Mar 2012 #82

We'll never know if he was fucked up out of his mind Mariana Mar 2012 #126

i heard it. barbtries Mar 2012 #83

To remove any "power of suggestion" doubts, here's what I did liberaltrucker Mar 2012 #85

I Heard it too, however I had to increase the volume fascisthunter Mar 2012 #89

Max volume thru headphones liberaltrucker Mar 2012 #91

I heard fucking coons too. Listened several times. Alameda Mar 2012 #100

If you say so. USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #114

I did the exact same for the person living with me. Hissyspit Mar 2012 #125

I don't hear well but heard both but either way, fucking murderer. uppityperson Mar 2012 #92

I heard about this from Joe Madison XanaDUer Mar 2012 #95

that's what it sounds like but arely staircase Mar 2012 #97

Has he been arrested yet? Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #98

He's prob left the country, and tossed the murder weapon..the holdup is Sandford Police HipChick Mar 2012 #104

Heard that...no doubt about it! workinclasszero Mar 2012 #101

He said, "F-ing Punks" USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #105

Unless he says "punks" like "poonks" deutsey Mar 2012 #107

I distinctly hear "punks" USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #111

I listened again workinclasszero Mar 2012 #109

'P' is not as distinct as 'K.' I posted the waveform below. joshcryer Mar 2012 #115

I don't see a waveform. Is it supposed to be in your post? Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #141

It's just an image of the wave. joshcryer Mar 2012 #142

Ah, I see. I don't have the site blocked...the AV program decides those things. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #143

I put the waveform into Audacity, and it's 100% what he whispers: joshcryer Mar 2012 #110

I played it on my Mac HipChick Mar 2012 #112

So are you saying USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #117

If you play it you can see the dictation. joshcryer Mar 2012 #120

Well unless someone can demonstrate USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #121

Lawerence is going to play the tape on his show... HipChick Mar 2012 #113

I've been too squeamish to listen to the tapes, but I think I'll tune into O'Donnell. myrna minx Mar 2012 #116

Are you sure? That's such an old fashioned term. Even racists don't use that term anymore, Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #118

It's clear on the tape... HipChick Mar 2012 #119

Consider yourself fortunate to not know any racists who morningfog Mar 2012 #135

Then I will consider myself lucky. Altho I know plenty of racists. They use the N word. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #138

I Heard It... He Said It... The FBI Will Confirm It... WillyT Mar 2012 #122

A sound engineer should enhance... ellisonz Mar 2012 #123

at the very end of Lawrence's show, was there suggestion that the official tape was doctored? renate Mar 2012 #127

punks. short u, not long tiny elvis Mar 2012 #128

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