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In reply to the discussion: Under FLA's Stand Your Ground Law, An African American Man Can Shoot Zimmerman [View all]csziggy
(34,189 posts)50. It has had a chilling effect here in Florida
The trouble with Florida's 'stand your ground' law
A Times Editorial
In Print:: Tuesday, March 20, 2012
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The Florida Legislature passed the law in 2005 at the behest of the National Rifle Association but over the staunch objections of law enforcement. The law allows the use of deadly force when a person is in a place he has a right to be and feels reasonably threatened with serious harm. Opponents dubbed it the "shoot first" law because people have no duty to attempt to retreat from a threat of violence even if they could do so safely. History has borne them out.
Since the law went into effect, reports of justifiable homicides have tripled, according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. It has been used to absolve violence resulting from road rage, barroom arguments and even a gang gunfight. In 2008, two gangs in Tallahassee got into a shootout where a 15-year-old boy was killed. The charges were dismissed by a judge citing the "stand your ground" law.
In a high-profile Tampa Bay case, Trevor Dooley is using "stand your ground" as his legal defense, claiming that he was entitled to shoot and kill David James, his Valrico neighbor, during an argument over skateboarding on a basketball court. Hillsborough Circuit Judge Ashley Moody will consider Dooley's motion to dismiss the charges against him on April 26.
More: http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/article1220845.ece
A Times Editorial
In Print:: Tuesday, March 20, 2012
<SNIP>
The Florida Legislature passed the law in 2005 at the behest of the National Rifle Association but over the staunch objections of law enforcement. The law allows the use of deadly force when a person is in a place he has a right to be and feels reasonably threatened with serious harm. Opponents dubbed it the "shoot first" law because people have no duty to attempt to retreat from a threat of violence even if they could do so safely. History has borne them out.
Since the law went into effect, reports of justifiable homicides have tripled, according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. It has been used to absolve violence resulting from road rage, barroom arguments and even a gang gunfight. In 2008, two gangs in Tallahassee got into a shootout where a 15-year-old boy was killed. The charges were dismissed by a judge citing the "stand your ground" law.
In a high-profile Tampa Bay case, Trevor Dooley is using "stand your ground" as his legal defense, claiming that he was entitled to shoot and kill David James, his Valrico neighbor, during an argument over skateboarding on a basketball court. Hillsborough Circuit Judge Ashley Moody will consider Dooley's motion to dismiss the charges against him on April 26.
More: http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/article1220845.ece
Check out the Trevor Dooley case where a man flashed a gun in front of some children and then ended up shooting the adult who objected through the heart, killing him instantly. The way the Florida law is written it is a bad law and will only lead to more killing.
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Under FLA's Stand Your Ground Law, An African American Man Can Shoot Zimmerman [View all]
Yavin4
Mar 2012
OP
If it were any other state, I could see concerned legislators gathering to
ChairmanAgnostic
Mar 2012
#2
It tripled "justifiable homicides". I believe that officially qualifies as "blood in the streets".
ieoeja
Mar 2012
#63
If this asshat gets away with murder, it's going to set race relations back 50 years.
BlueJazz
Mar 2012
#7
On Amy's show today, I heard that nearly half the states have similar laws. n/t
EFerrari
Mar 2012
#9
You are intentionally ignoring the requirement of reasonableness that is explicitly in the law
slackmaster
Mar 2012
#28
George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin should have been given toxicology tests
slackmaster
Mar 2012
#49
The family's attorney stated that toxicology tests were run on Trayvon's body. They were negative.
yardwork
Mar 2012
#57
The ONLY reason this case was finally handed to a grand jury is due to public outcry.
yardwork
Mar 2012
#56
The police chief was quoted as saying that the DA saw no evidence to press charges.
yardwork
Mar 2012
#59
A lot of people are going to be very disappointed if Zimmerman isn't charged with a crime
slackmaster
Mar 2012
#62
What you have articulated sounds exactly the same as jury instructions I've gotten in the USA
slackmaster
Mar 2012
#48
You didn't read the statute? Says that only "scary" people can be shot by "scared" property-holders
leveymg
Mar 2012
#17
Zimmerman should never have stepped his racist ass out of his vehicle as DIRECTED by 911.
CakeGrrl
Mar 2012
#22
Me either. Especially when you listen to the two women (it's playing on CNN)
ScreamingMeemie
Mar 2012
#54
No, and I feel it is counterproductive for you to post such hysterical hyperbole on this forum
slackmaster
Mar 2012
#27