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39. Was my vote for Barack Obama in 2008 and again in 2012 voting like I'm a 1%er?

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 09:31 PM

Feb 2014

I have to tell you, if the election was held again tomorrow, and I know everything that I know today, I would still vote for President Obama.
I have always thought that the "If you're not part of the 1% why do you vote like it" meme was aimed at poor and middle class (and mostly white) Southern and Midwestern voters who tend to vote Republican.
Maybe I'm wrong. Or maybe I'm just so fucking old, tired, and jaded that I've allowed pragmatism to rein in that fiery young radical that I used to be (honest!)
In any case, I enjoy your posts, and even when I disagree with you it's impossible to deny that you're thought provoking and funny.

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Do you have any idea of how much DU's changed in the past year? [View all] MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 OP

Sweating? nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #1

!! Number23 Feb 2014 #87

Someone is sweating Oilwellian Feb 2014 #2

She wasn't in Obama's Cabinet in December. rug Feb 2014 #3

Personally, I think it was MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #8

No. No. The failure of privatized security is a very real scandal. aquart Feb 2014 #18

but it's kind of like.... ut oh Feb 2014 #52

I still think Hillary will be the next president. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #4

Yes I agree. She is the choice of the Powers To Be. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #74

I agree that the establishment wantbher but Democratic voters want her now. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #75

I predict that Citizen's United will work in Clinton's favor. How ironic. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #77

Probably. considering the GOP don't have a strong candidate she will get hrmjustin Feb 2014 #78

Exactly. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #80

I'm even seeing more about income inequality on the internet news. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #5

You're finally seeing income inequality on the web? aquart Feb 2014 #14

I don't agree with the finding "quick" fadedrose Feb 2014 #20

Yeah, that worked so well for Hillary LAST time! Demeter Feb 2014 #31

Not to her supporters . . . fadedrose Feb 2014 #36

I remember her supporters... Scootaloo Feb 2014 #82

Maybe John Boehner will run against her. boston bean Feb 2014 #96

Secret fadedrose Feb 2014 #103

Better to ProSense Feb 2014 #6

The margin of error has got to be nearly 100%. democratisphere Feb 2014 #7

Margin of error for predicting *what*? nt MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #9

Polls are certainly NOT scientific. democratisphere Feb 2014 #35

She trounced them in 2006 as well. John Kerry was second-place then. Scootaloo Feb 2014 #83

The Democrats ALREADY have a STRONG candidate they should be pumping up! democratisphere Feb 2014 #98

yeah, just like Kucnich and Edwards had FARRR more support than Obama or Hillary JI7 Feb 2014 #10

Can you back that up? MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #13

Kucinich leads, Obama lags, in DU poll JI7 Feb 2014 #25

Well $%^& me. You're right. nt MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #27

I got sick of hearing...... Historic NY Feb 2014 #34

Instead of trying to sow division among Dems Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #11

but that's just what some want JI7 Feb 2014 #15

How is this sowing division? Scuba Feb 2014 #17

I don't view it as 840high Feb 2014 #22

It's funny what different people view as Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #37

Anything but lock step is division. L0oniX Feb 2014 #41

Nonsense. Posting an OP for discussion is not Autumn Feb 2014 #45

It Is, If You've Already Made Your Choice... WillyT Feb 2014 #55

Too early to make a choice. No one has announced they are running yet. Well Autumn Feb 2014 #58

+1 Go Vols Feb 2014 #113

We should be united going into the general election. But before that there has to be a nominating totodeinhere Feb 2014 #64

It's naive to think that this class war is being waged by Democrats vs. Republicans. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #76

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #84

And I think it's more than that. If they just wanted to be on the side rhett o rick Feb 2014 #88

What a load of complete bullshit. Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #112

That would be a great idea! treestar Feb 2014 #93

^^K&R^^ Progressive dog Feb 2014 #101

No huge changes. It has always been permissible to shit on Democrats prior to ... 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #12

It has always been permissable for elected Democrats to shit on the 99% after... MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #16

"only since 1992" JI7 Feb 2014 #19

You're right, my bad MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #24

So the OP would rather overturn the 2008 election than the 1980 election Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #30

You Better Believe It! n/t JTFrog Feb 2014 #32

Really? You're questioning his liberal bona fides? Come on. Ed Suspicious Feb 2014 #65

Why would a "liberal" rather overturn the 2008 election than the 1980 election? Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #68

+1 treestar Feb 2014 #94

Well yeah, President Mondale and President Dukakis's policies helped a lot more geek tragedy Feb 2014 #21

If only we had nominated Gary Hart Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #38

Is it your contention that everyone who doesn't agree with your schtick is part of the 1%? 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #28

Not my contention at all. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #33

Was my vote for Barack Obama in 2008 and again in 2012 voting like I'm a 1%er? 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #39

I hope not. That's how I voted too. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #44

Correction Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #91

+1 LordGlenconner Feb 2014 #115

not since DU3, shitfest all the way to election day joshcryer Feb 2014 #43

You posted only one of those threads. MineralMan Feb 2014 #23

Why does it matter who posted it? MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #26

Compare the voters in your poll MineralMan Feb 2014 #29

Any following I have is transient, based on noncompliance with medications. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #40

Nevertheless, the two polls are not comparable. MineralMan Feb 2014 #47

On line polls of any sort are not worth a bucket of warm spit. bemildred Feb 2014 #99

in the words of bvar, you know them by their WORKS joshcryer Feb 2014 #42

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #46

Yes, and no. MineralMan Feb 2014 #48

I have to agree blue14u Feb 2014 #49

I want to believe that Manny zeemike Feb 2014 #50

I'm Stuck In The SAME Hole You Are... zeemlike ChiciB1 Feb 2014 #60

I understand all of that. zeemike Feb 2014 #70

YOU Are A Person After My Own Heart! ChiciB1 Feb 2014 #109

I was promoting Elizabeth Warren for President before she was elected to the Senate mikekohr Feb 2014 #51

I think Elizebeth Warren will be in the finals. marble falls Feb 2014 #53

hell yes DonCoquixote Feb 2014 #54

My answer: DU's change = MannyGoldstein's increasing dominance for whatever the reason n/t UTUSN Feb 2014 #56

I hope you're right Manny... ReRe Feb 2014 #57

Hillary is sooooooooo 2008. bvar22 Feb 2014 #59

She might have been 2007. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #86

Manny, How much would you like to wager that this HRC for POTUS is all a huge ruse? 2banon Feb 2014 #61

That is an interesting idea and a hopeful one. zeemike Feb 2014 #71

Me too.. 2banon Feb 2014 #107

I think you're exactly right. woo me with science Feb 2014 #119

you assume she is in it for the money joshcryer Feb 2014 #73

She might not be doing it for money, though. JoeyT Feb 2014 #85

I truly believe she wants revenge. joshcryer Feb 2014 #95

Sure, I'd want that too. 2banon Feb 2014 #114

That's what I'm thinking JoeyT 2banon Feb 2014 #110

Your points rest my case. She doesn't need to put herself through all this shite.. 2banon Feb 2014 #108

what power? she is a civilian now joshcryer Feb 2014 #120

So is her husband 2banon Feb 2014 #121

what influence has Bill shown? joshcryer Feb 2014 #122

I don't think she'll run, either MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #79

I wouldn't bet money on it, but I can see it. bemildred Feb 2014 #100

Past year?... mzteris Feb 2014 #62

I'm pretty much TomClash Feb 2014 #63

Yes. I agree. And we are pointing the way to 2016. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #66

The bullshit has been exposed. :) woo me with science Feb 2014 #67

"Now the contest becomes truth versus money." Zorra Feb 2014 #89

Remember this from the departed Molly Ivins? Kurovski Feb 2014 #69

Damn I miss that lady. zeemike Feb 2014 #72

I miss...even the sound of her voice. Kurovski Feb 2014 #81

"get out there and give em hell" zeemike Feb 2014 #92

More people try to pass for real journalists.. Historic NY Feb 2014 #102

Yes. The "FOX blonds" as it is. Kurovski Feb 2014 #106

It's dangerous to be a real journalist these days. woo me with science Feb 2014 #118

A classic. jsr Feb 2014 #90

+1 a significant amount. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #104

The happy very few better get scared BelgianMadCow Feb 2014 #97

The populist ticket is the winning ticket in 2016 (and 2014). Enthusiast Feb 2014 #105

I won't be voting for Hillary, no matter how much Pavlov's Dems foam at the mouth. n/t whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #111

ok Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #116

It is so cute that someone thinks informal internet polls, one with 129 responses and the other FSogol Feb 2014 #117