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41. Applying "Rational Basis of Law" to any of these ornate trappings

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 09:47 PM

Feb 2014

Of the military/industrial/surveillance/governmental agency state, would make these all these contentions of and about the Surveillance State totally moot.

Our public officials, both elected and appointed, must all take an oath of office to defend, protect and uphold the Constitution. Yet more and more of their energy is about creating an elaborate and over-funded group of agencies that do nothing but deprive We the Citizens of the very rights that our government is supposed to exist to protect on our behalf.

They are destroying the village in order to save it.

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How Obama Officials Cried �Terrorism� to Cover Up a Paperwork Error [View all] kpete Feb 2014 OP

More people that won't get fired that need to be. RC Feb 2014 #1

Betcha none of them lost an ounce of sleep over it. jsr Feb 2014 #2

James Clapper is an unrepentant piece of shit. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #3

Placed on the no-fly list 2004, sued 2006, and this is Obama's fault? struggle4progress Feb 2014 #4

It says Obama Officials. Which is true. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #6

What the case shows is: improper use of an FBI form in 2004; subsequent improper struggle4progress Feb 2014 #9

Thank you yet again. kristopher Feb 2014 #12

It'd be great if the Obama Administration had the resources... berni_mccoy Feb 2014 #27

Yes, we elected Dems to fix all of this shit. It looks like we were hopelessly naive. But not any sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #14

That means you never paid attention to the case before today, right? struggle4progress Feb 2014 #16

They weren't Obama officials in 2004. Unless they were in Chicago. Obama wasn't yet a Senator. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2014 #15

this "author" wrote a story five days ago about the same court case but you wouldn't recognize it okaawhatever Feb 2014 #53

Yes, if the name "Obama" is anywhere near it(or even if it's not).. it's all Cha Feb 2014 #20

It took some effort to find a version of the story headlining the President struggle4progress Feb 2014 #21

Sure it is. Bush's entire Presidency is Obama's fault. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #29

while the first mistake happened under bush questionseverything Feb 2014 #34

Sssh! We have to truedelphi Feb 2014 #39

so sorry questionseverything Feb 2014 #40

As soon as you sign off on that NSA micro-nano-chip that will report on them, truedelphi Feb 2014 #56

3 Obama officials are quoted in the article, tryign to cover up the bungle muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #36

It's impossible to know exactly what the statements are arguing without context struggle4progress Feb 2014 #38

Applying "Rational Basis of Law" to any of these ornate trappings truedelphi Feb 2014 #41

I wrote further down the thread about how this same "author" wrote a story 5 days ago in his okaawhatever Feb 2014 #54

... Ms. Ibrahim�s case ... casts light on the role of private contractors in deciding struggle4progress Feb 2014 #5

People make mistakes. reusrename Feb 2014 #8

There seem to have been at least two efforts to correct a database under the prior administration, struggle4progress Feb 2014 #17

Your tax dollars at (ahem) work blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #7

But surely no mistakes will be made with all the information being amassed on the general population Alkene Feb 2014 #10

oh don't worry - the apologist brigade will be along villager Feb 2014 #13

It's necessary to destroy our freedoms in order to preserve them friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #43

Good lord -- have things fallen so far apart that we are in agreement!? villager Feb 2014 #44

In this case, at least, they have and we do... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #45

Well, good. Keep your damn guns locked up.... villager Feb 2014 #46

I won't go that far, but I shall continue to hold the feet of the apologists... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #47

Well, we agree on the pairs of feet held to fire villager Feb 2014 #48

No need to lock up guns, I don't own any friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #49

Well, after years (I think it's years) of locking horns... villager Feb 2014 #50

Indictable? DeSwiss Feb 2014 #11

I'm sure you wish it were, but the story is far less sexy than you might like struggle4progress Feb 2014 #18

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #19

thanks obama PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #22

Whole buncha people need to be disciplined. bemildred Feb 2014 #23

Brings into question the validity of all of their secret "lists." Downwinder Feb 2014 #24

Clapper: weapons materials were "unquestionably" shipped out of Iraq to Syria jakeXT Feb 2014 #25

but you can't ever question officials, and it's *not* authoritarian to say that MisterP Feb 2014 #33

But Holder *did* get a huge raise for Jamie. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #26

Hey! If you didn't do anything wrong you don't have to worry. rgbecker Feb 2014 #28

If it wasn't for Obama, Bush wouldn't have been elected. ProSense Feb 2014 #30

2004? gollygee Feb 2014 #31

why the fuck didn't Obama do anything about Katrina ? JI7 Feb 2014 #35

No joke, a poll taken 6 months ago by PPP shows that more Republican in LA blame Obama than Bush for okaawhatever Feb 2014 #52

K&R woo me with science Feb 2014 #32

Have I mentioned that this country is clear off the tracks? Enthusiast Feb 2014 #37

People must be sacrificed in the name of national security. L0oniX Feb 2014 #42

This article is pure bullcrap. The same "author" wrote a story about this trial five days ago and okaawhatever Feb 2014 #51

As far as I can tell from the court decision, she was removed from the no-fly list in 2005 but struggle4progress Feb 2014 #55