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178. You never did negate my points above

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #175)

Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:26 AM

Feb 2014

on your skewed polls. Please go there first and then we can debate.

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The Russia bashing has backfired. [View all] go west young man Feb 2014 OP

Good news from other nations seems to make Americans inexplicably sad, even angry. Strange. Fred Sanders Feb 2014 #1

"Good news"? Russia's Laws Against Gays in Russia is "good news"? Tell us Cha Feb 2014 #71

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InfoWars and PrisonPlanet? Codeine Feb 2014 #235

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I've read these editorials before. I think you posted them already OKNancy Feb 2014 #2

Oh, I fully agree with you here Aerows Feb 2014 #16

Some of the bashing has gone way over the line. Xithras Feb 2014 #3

Bush got elected in our country, technically Aerows Feb 2014 #11

Yes, but how much responsibility do you, as a person, share for his actions? Xithras Feb 2014 #21

I think it's important to understand what causes bigotry-of any kind-to exist YoungDemCA Feb 2014 #42

Totally agree OwnedByCats Feb 2014 #96

The Russian opinion polls I've read... Silent3 Feb 2014 #127

I address these polls below. go west young man Feb 2014 #148

Didn't you know that just because you lived in Russia OwnedByCats Feb 2014 #157

I don't go by polls OwnedByCats Feb 2014 #155

Who said anything about "targeting" anyone? Silent3 Feb 2014 #176

Thank you! Very well stated. nt. polly7 Feb 2014 #13

No, the reality is that Russians as a group are virulent homophobes and the anti-GLBT geek tragedy Feb 2014 #14

Agreed - but we have a lot of work to do with a goodly portion of the USA: freshwest Feb 2014 #23

There is bigotry in the US, but the bigots are losing the culture war here, badly. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #27

But the regressives are really doubling down... Still look at VA... That's good news: freshwest Feb 2014 #35

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The chart must be skewed... go west young man Feb 2014 #72

And don't get me started go west young man Feb 2014 #74

The little old church ladies, the broken alcoholics, their families FrodosPet Feb 2014 #146

CIA stats on Russian population. go west young man Feb 2014 #147

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yeah we uppity people demanding our rights arely staircase Feb 2014 #25

Never said it was great. Xithras Feb 2014 #37

I have a problem with bigotry. Institutionalized bigotry like that of the Russian government arely staircase Feb 2014 #159

After reading GT's posts: Yup, fuck Russian homophobia, racism and... n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #4

yes but you are straight so you see 'Russia and the US' while I am gay and i see straight Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #7

I don't disagree with you Aerows Feb 2014 #12

problem is, if anything, Putin is less homophobic than the general public. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #17

That's sad. Aerows Feb 2014 #18

I read somewhere that Putin did this to appease his ultra right-wing supporters. Don't know how true okaawhatever Feb 2014 #49

See my posts above go west young man Feb 2014 #91

'Don't call us on our persecution of LGBT people or we will persecute LGBT people more?' Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #5

+100 theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #163

Straight folks who lecture gay people that we are opposing Straight bigotry the wrong way Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #6

"See, you hurt yourself by standing up for yourself." Lex Feb 2014 #20

+1000000 Jamastiene Feb 2014 #31

Yep, the same old matra used against workers in this country theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #165

thank you nt arely staircase Feb 2014 #26

+1000000 Jamastiene Feb 2014 #29

Except that... in another thread go west young man Feb 2014 #67

+1 Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #161

leave Putin and the homophobic bigots aloooooone. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #8

LOL OKNancy Feb 2014 #10

Yeah, one of my favorites! Geek knows where to find 'em. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #24

EXACTLY! Jamastiene Feb 2014 #30

YES, and I LOVE IT get the red out Feb 2014 #45

+1. LOL. n/t FSogol Feb 2014 #59

Really. That's the fucking height of idiocy. Cha Feb 2014 #73

great answer to the hand wringing in the editorials covered in the header. Nika Feb 2014 #117

perfect LOL snooper2 Feb 2014 #185

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Good read malaise Feb 2014 #9

Thanks. go west young man Feb 2014 #88

The hypocrisy of the America-first crowd is what's so disappointing. reusrename Feb 2014 #158

I've already been called everything in the book. go west young man Feb 2014 #166

"Haha, the Russians have screwed up again!" Lex Feb 2014 #15

lol Renew Deal Feb 2014 #38

Not the Onion, Russian Embassy Compares Its Nation's Homophobia to U.K. 'Ginger' Hate Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #19

I think this thread is what backfired! OKNancy Feb 2014 #22

The links I posted go west young man Feb 2014 #68

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Your membership status with the Putin Fan Club is duly noted. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #28

How DARE we stand up for what is right? Jamastiene Feb 2014 #32

But...but...but.... Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #75

Believe it or not, "it's" go west young man Feb 2014 #94

Take your own advice. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #97

Everyone here can see my "agenda" go west young man Feb 2014 #103

See, we agree on something. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #104

I fully realize... go west young man Feb 2014 #119

And? Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #121

Debate the OP please. go west young man Feb 2014 #131

The OP is nothing but strawman feces, so it is hard to "debate" illogical crap. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #132

With rebuttals like that... go west young man Feb 2014 #149

As opposed to your rebuttals? Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #151

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Gay folks should sit quietly and wait until someone deigns to allow them equal rights. NYC Liberal Feb 2014 #33

The ones hurting the LGBT community in Russia is their govrrnment and their fellow hrmjustin Feb 2014 #34

The Russian govt passed their hateful and bigoted laws. Don't blame people for noticing Renew Deal Feb 2014 #36

And the Duma was unanimous in their hate and bigotry Laughing Mirror Feb 2014 #187

You know, when the Olympics were held in Mexico City in 68 nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #39

Oh I notice. go west young man Feb 2014 #57

I appreciate that you lived in large urban centers. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #63

Point taken.. go west young man Feb 2014 #66

Back that with.... go west young man Feb 2014 #69

Dad grew up in Poland nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #76

Just because you personally have never witnessed it nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #70

Point taken... go west young man Feb 2014 #123

I've been traveling the world since I was a kid, been to places that don't even exist Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #64

Let me ask you a question go west young man. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #40

I can't help wonder if this has to do with Snowden BainsBane Feb 2014 #51

Whike I can't speak for the OP and nor will I try, I think that some here on this site like Putin hrmjustin Feb 2014 #54

Putin has no problem using military force BainsBane Feb 2014 #58

Yeah I don't get it either. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #60

Although I am fully aware of "The Great Game" go west young man Feb 2014 #82

We have stooped to Putin's brutal laws? I can not believe you just said that! hrmjustin Feb 2014 #84

I'm equating the verbal demonization of a whole culture go west young man Feb 2014 #90

Well putting DU in the same category as that law is not right IMO. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #93

DU normally does a lot better than this vitriolic stuff go west young man Feb 2014 #101

Well perhaps if you don't insult us the way you have you might not get banned again. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #105

Waaaaaaahhhhhh I got posts hidden waaaaaaaaahhhhh NuclearDem Feb 2014 #107

It's just a website. go west young man Feb 2014 #109

Utter self absorbed bullshit. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #110

Instead of getting so personal... go west young man Feb 2014 #124

No, I won't. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #126

"No I won't." go west young man Feb 2014 #133

I think of it as more a revelatory forum. A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2014 #134

For the people that don't know me... go west young man Feb 2014 #139

What do you think Jimmy Carter would say about your posts on this topic? A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2014 #142

I'm pretty sure neither of them go west young man Feb 2014 #150

"Someone they disagree with" NuclearDem Feb 2014 #160

I try not to be rude to people. go west young man Feb 2014 #167

Of course you don't get it. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #169

The DUMA does not have the support of the people in Russia. go west young man Feb 2014 #173

"Nonbeliever" doesn't automatically mean socially progressive NuclearDem Feb 2014 #182

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You are utterly unbelievable. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #135

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Because a thoughtless post on DU is exactly the same BainsBane Feb 2014 #106

"Putin's silly law" Laughing Mirror Feb 2014 #188

I actually agree with the helping LGBT people in Russia. go west young man Feb 2014 #79

How are we being used by the media and how are we punishing Russia? hrmjustin Feb 2014 #81

My goodness; you're painting the DU with the same broad brush you claim the DU has toward Russia! icymist Feb 2014 #114

So, your post about a gay couple visiting Russia saying there is no issue joeglow3 Feb 2014 #140

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Awww, the Putinistas are butthurt... backscatter712 Feb 2014 #41

The Olympics really seems to bring out the xenophobia quinnox Feb 2014 #43

Or it could be that people say "the Russians" but don't actually mean justiceischeap Feb 2014 #46

Possibly quinnox Feb 2014 #48

I for one don't hate all Russians justiceischeap Feb 2014 #56

well, hopefully most are just doing as you speculate quinnox Feb 2014 #62

There was one poster here this past week go west young man Feb 2014 #78

His post did not get banned by the way. go west young man Feb 2014 #83

Was it this one that was hidden?: A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2014 #85

The second one was hidden for a link to a transphobic video. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #95

Shoulda got the boot for that. A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2014 #98

Instead, he posted the same link again in another post. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #99

Using love for Russia to hide A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2014 #102

The title of the link: Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #120

I...what? NuclearDem Feb 2014 #122

It's amazing you guys can't see what is starting to appear as a gang mentality go west young man Feb 2014 #125

Waaaaaaah the LGBTers and their allies are getting all touchy waaaaahhh NuclearDem Feb 2014 #129

Evolve. go west young man Feb 2014 #141

To make the point that it happens in the US. go west young man Feb 2014 #115

No, the transgender people were not the victims, it was MOCKING transgender people! Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #118

It's Americans fighting. go west young man Feb 2014 #136

You claim that is the point, but GLBT here got your REAL point. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #138

For the 500th time... go west young man Feb 2014 #153

No, where we disagree.... Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #154

Except for the fact that I.... go west young man Feb 2014 #168

Haters gonna hate AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #189

Yeah...no. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #204

"BTW, you sign the petition against the Ugandan Law?" NealK Feb 2014 #210

The first was sarcasm misinterpreted for someone who actually wrote "Fuck Putin" in the post before. go west young man Feb 2014 #108

Theyre picking on you. A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2014 #112

I have been reading all of these posts, but have not commented until now after reading your post louslobbs Feb 2014 #207

Thanks, Lou. We all have our blind spot A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2014 #209

It was NOT gay bashing. It was MOCKING transgender individuals. Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #116

Fair enough.. hidden. go west young man Feb 2014 #137

Hatred? Do you see it here at DU? I haven't. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #50

Why is condemning homophobia wrong? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #44

Of course you can condemn them get the red out Feb 2014 #47

In Russia, Tetris play you Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #52

How is it bashing pointing out the country's homophobia? Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #53

genug already HERVEPA Feb 2014 #55

I think the response is proportionate to what is happening to the gays citizens of Russia. It's not okaawhatever Feb 2014 #61

Their anti-gay laws are an affront to all lgbt people. Morning Dew Feb 2014 #65

Russia should not be celebrated Notafraidtoo Feb 2014 #77

This sounds a lot like Ronald Reagan claiming that sanctions against South Africa . . . markpkessinger Feb 2014 #80

Since when is DU that influential? nt pnwmom Feb 2014 #86

See post #68 go west young man Feb 2014 #89

How many people need to die before criticizing the abusers is okay? icymist Feb 2014 #87

"Reignite the cold war" by calling out LGBT bigotry and hatred? Seriously? bluesbassman Feb 2014 #92

Speechless. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #100

Read the articles. go west young man Feb 2014 #111

No. Go away. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #113

Strong argument. go west young man Feb 2014 #143

Pathetic victim complex. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #144

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The issue is human rights. Our Constitution, despite our despicable RWNJs, forbids what is legal in freshwest Feb 2014 #128

I will go to my grave bashing Mother Russia. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #130

Mother Russia died in 1991. go west young man Feb 2014 #145

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And the same should go for the USA AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #190

Nowhere near Russia's. Not even close. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #191

Sure it is close AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #192

Alright, I must be missing the sarcasm tag. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #193

So you view American anti-LGBT hatred as exceptional AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #194

What the fuck are you talking about? NuclearDem Feb 2014 #198

Haters gonna hate AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #199

And trolls are going to put words in people's mouths. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #200

Haters always AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #205

3/4 of Russians do. .33 < .75 nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #197

Yet equally AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #208

Yeah, gay people are to blame for our own oppression. DemocraticWing Feb 2014 #152

After reading this thread, the only backfire I see is the OP! William769 Feb 2014 #156

Pooty, that you? HappyMe Feb 2014 #162

The gay bashing has backfired for Russia and the bullying has backfired for the OP Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #164

Threads like this are what Russian will end up seeing in their publications. go west young man Feb 2014 #171

Bigotry causes divisiveness. Stop siding with the bigots, nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #177

It's the approach I disagree with. go west young man Feb 2014 #179

your words: " I bet the MIC is loving the LGBT community right now." geek tragedy Feb 2014 #180

Seriously? Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #170

Read the articles. go west young man Feb 2014 #172

I'll save my sympathy for the LGBT victims being gang-raped by Russian straight thugs with bottles. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #174

You bashed LGBT people for advocating for their own damn human rights. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #175

You never did negate my points above go west young man Feb 2014 #178

I'm stopping posting on this subject now. go west young man Feb 2014 #181

You got your ass handed to you, and rightfully so. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #195

you used "skewed polls" without irony. that's funny. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #183

It's homophobic nonsense. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #196

Jesus H. Christ, man, we're almost out of wars! We gotta bash SOMEONE! Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #184

That kind of sucked to read. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #186

Uh....not remotely true. When S. Africa's apartheid was Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #201

To quote "Alvin Dark", from Jim Bouton's book "Ball Four" HERVEPA Feb 2014 #202

Pffft.....This is not a reaction to the anti-Russian sentiment that arose out of their anti-gay Swede Atlanta Feb 2014 #203

I think you did exceptionally well in this debate. A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2014 #206

Lol! NealK Feb 2014 #211

The Unknown Putin: leader of the free world and saviour of russia brianct Feb 2014 #212

And demonize a politically powerless minority. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #214

demonisIng president Putin endanger america brianct Feb 2014 #217

Your buddy Putin is a homophobic jackass, Name Removed. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #226

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This is precious. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #232

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Embarrassed , the media tries damage control brianct Feb 2014 #213

I agree, there was a bit too much of the Ugly American flamingdem Feb 2014 #215

my letter to Cohen at Ottawacitizen on his still endoring and spreading the Putin-phobia steretypes brianct Feb 2014 #216

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I'm a progressive liberal yet people look down on me for being a citizen of Alabama. Redfairen Feb 2014 #230