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Jesus Malverde

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23. You really think only 4 out of 100 americans are LGBT?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:18 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:46 PM - Edit history (1)

You have heard the term "in the closet", how do you measure what doesn't exist.

Being suspicious of statistics and polling around a controversial topic is common sense.

According to a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research, about 20 percent of the population is attracted to their own gender. That’s nearly double the usual estimates of about 10 percent. The authors explain that their methodology might have something to do with it:

Participants were randomly assigned to either a “best practices method” that was computer-based and provides privacy and anonymity, or to a “veiled elicitation method” that further conceals individual responses. Answers in the veiled method preclude inference about any particular individual, but can be used to accurately estimate statistics about the population. Comparing the two methods shows sexuality-related questions receive biased responses even under current best practices, and, for many questions, the bias is substantial. The veiled method increased self-reports of non-heterosexual identity by 65% (p<0.05) and same-sex sexual experiences by 59% (p<0.01). The veiled method also increased the rates of anti-gay sentiment. Respondents were 67% more likely to express disapproval of an openly gay manager at work (p<0.01) and 71% more likely to say it is okay to discriminate against lesbian, gay, or bisexual individuals (p<0.01).

Essentially, using a veiled question rather than a direct one uncovered a whole group of people who would not directly say they weren’t heterosexual. This kind of veiled questioning can get at all sorts of answers that people don’t want to give, like the incidence of rape. Daniel Luzer at Pacific Standard explains that uncovering these hidden biases is really important for understanding how accurate these kinds of surveys actually are:

The most important takeaway isn’t a final tally of the gay people in society, but, rather, an understanding of the ways in which surveys and other existing attempts to measure such things might be slightly misleading. “The results show non-heterosexuality and anti-gay sentiment are substantially underestimated in existing surveys, and the privacy afforded by current best practices is not always sufficient to eliminate bias,” note the researchers, who were just looking at the way surveys might under-count both homosexuality and attitudes toward homosexuality.


Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/what-percent-of-the-population-is-gay-more-than-you-think-5012467

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Your thread title is misleading and unfairly defamatory to Amos. anasv Feb 2014 #1
humorless people Bucky Feb 2014 #3
um, the title/headline is more than a little misleading nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #2
ridiculous complaint Bucky Feb 2014 #4
i clicked on it thinking it was a story about homophobic comments nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #5
I think it was intended as a play on the number 144 (a gross) pinboy3niner Feb 2014 #6
Exactly my point. You immediately saw that he was reporting facts Bucky Feb 2014 #8
no, because i was thinking this doesn't seem like him. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #9
+1 n/t FreeState Feb 2014 #11
Considering there are 241031 marines.. Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #7
Where in the article did it mention that...... Historic NY Feb 2014 #13
What is speculation... Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #15
Big problem with your logic Bucky Feb 2014 #16
10% is generally accepted LGBT rate... Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #18
no, not really, it's like 3.8%, probably half that for the military snooper2 Feb 2014 #19
4 out of hundred...ya right Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #20
mkay..no need to argue about it..doesn't matter if .001% or 63.2% snooper2 Feb 2014 #21
You really think only 4 out of 100 americans are LGBT? Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #23
And 85% of the Marines are ages 26and younger. That age doesn't get married like they used to. haele Feb 2014 #24
Very interesting... Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #26
Why are they counting this? former9thward Feb 2014 #10
Pay and benifit purposes Revanchist Feb 2014 #12
Well if they have 144 couples that would have no impact whatsoever on the overall budget. former9thward Feb 2014 #14
But his point is that the Marines are institutionally cool with same sex couples. Bucky Feb 2014 #17
they count it for all couples. I was answering your question Revanchist Feb 2014 #22
Why separate it? former9thward Feb 2014 #25
Because somewhere along the line... DonViejo Feb 2014 #27
And he should say "I have no idea". former9thward Feb 2014 #29
Except the military keeps records about how many African Americans, Asians, DonViejo Feb 2014 #32
You don't think it's relevant to e.g. recruitment? Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #35
Its not a significant number. former9thward Feb 2014 #36
Not yet, true. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #37
I think the General was making a point. Revanchist Feb 2014 #33
Actually, it does. Married Pay, Married rations, and spousal benefits. Spouses get VA benefits. haele Feb 2014 #28
There are 241,000 Marines. former9thward Feb 2014 #30
Benefits and leave allocation... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #34
I was Army, not USMC, but as far as women in combat positions, Aristus Feb 2014 #31
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